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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22210 Posts
February 25 2016 14:42 GMT
#1561
is azarkon rubbing his hands in glee yet
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 25 2016 14:44 GMT
#1562
Team Secret thinks this is TI2 lol
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 14:45:56
February 25 2016 14:45 GMT
#1563
Ehome's collapse after the last tournament has been rather drastic.

We have yet to see the other Chinese teams. They have easier groups - lelz because they put three top Western teams in one group - and I can see a few of them getting through in the top two, but the writing is there already:

MDL was not the beginning of China's rise. China's fall into second rate status continues. Think about it this way, had it not been for Ehome, they'd not have won MDL, also. The next best Chinese team didn't even make it to top three.

On the other hand, Koreans show that hard work and effort pay off even without a scene. Although I'm not sure they're going to be able to actually win the top Western teams, they're certainly around that level already.

And we see, in the end, that Azarkon was right.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
February 25 2016 14:47 GMT
#1564
Was Azarkon right again? And we were all left in our predictions?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
February 25 2016 14:47 GMT
#1565
Were the groups seeded or drawn?
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 25 2016 14:48 GMT
#1566
ehome/mvp might've shat all over our predictions, but we can always trust earth spirit to get one of it right
ffxiv enjoyer
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 25 2016 14:49 GMT
#1567
And just so we see how effective Dota "analysts" are, versus how effective Azarkon's method is, count the amount of "analysts" who called for Ehome to win:

Xiao8
Merlini
Nahaz
Chuan

All worthless.

Only PPD called for his own team to win.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
February 25 2016 14:49 GMT
#1568
On February 25 2016 23:47 Mafe wrote:
Were the groups seeded or drawn?


The groups were Valved (i.e. nobody knows).
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
February 25 2016 14:50 GMT
#1569
On February 25 2016 23:40 Mafe wrote:
I'm torn between wanting secret to advance, and not having this event turn into a total disaster for chinese teams on their home soil. Guess I cant have it all. I'll cheer for secret for now, since looking at the other groups, there's a better chance for the chinese teams there to get into the wb.
edit: Now that they've picked an enigma, no way I can even remotely not cheer for secret in this game.


this new 5 man doto with massive ults secret reminds me a lot of old na'vi. I really enjoy it actually. Puppey Enigma is always a treat
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 25 2016 14:50 GMT
#1570
I wouldn't read too far into Ehome's play quite yet. Old Eleven might currently be on pain meds. I'd not want to play them in the Bo1s, though.

I still have a bad feeling about EG vs complexity. Day 1 EG + a team they scrim against a lot. Could go messy.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
February 25 2016 14:50 GMT
#1571
On February 25 2016 23:47 Mafe wrote:
Were the groups seeded or drawn?


Valve internal seeding. Ehome vs MVP.P should have been the 2nd vs 15th matchup.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:51 GMT
#1572
IS THIS A WARLOCK LMFAO
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 25 2016 14:51 GMT
#1573
This might be a really good meepo game actually
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:51 GMT
#1574
On February 25 2016 23:51 Rocket-Bear wrote:
This might be a really good meepo game actually


I'm not a fan vs morphling, and warlock can be an issue.
Otherwhise yeah, it's possible.
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
February 25 2016 14:52 GMT
#1575
On February 25 2016 23:23 BlazingGlory wrote:
Pie carried em hard this game. Clutch kills, saves, swaps, wards.

yup but dotatv mvp vote was 43% envy then w33 and ppy.
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
February 25 2016 14:52 GMT
#1576
On February 25 2016 23:50 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 23:47 Mafe wrote:
Were the groups seeded or drawn?


Valve internal seeding. Ehome vs MVP.P should have been the 2nd vs 15th matchup.


So... picking names out of the hat and putting them back in if you didn't like what you drew, got it.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
February 25 2016 14:52 GMT
#1577
On February 25 2016 23:51 HammerKick wrote:
IS THIS A WARLOCK LMFAO

They played it mid against CDEC earlier today.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
February 25 2016 14:52 GMT
#1578
Just go AM vs morph with pinoy clinkz mid
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
February 25 2016 14:53 GMT
#1579
On February 25 2016 23:52 Furikawari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 23:51 HammerKick wrote:
IS THIS A WARLOCK LMFAO

They played it mid against CDEC earlier today.


holy shit, I need to watch that game
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-25 14:54:43
February 25 2016 14:53 GMT
#1580
On February 25 2016 23:50 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I wouldn't read too far into Ehome's play quite yet. Old Eleven might currently be on pain meds. I'd not want to play them in the Bo1s, though.

I still have a bad feeling about EG vs complexity. Day 1 EG + a team they scrim against a lot. Could go messy.


This is what you can see, however.

First off, they still beat CDEC, so it's not though they are especially worse than other Chinese teams. I believe that they are liable to be worse than the Chinese teams in other groups, but we actually haven't seen how bad those teams are, yet.

Second, Eleven isn't even playing a lot worse. It's just that him not being able to carry the team throughout the game is showing how bad the rest of the team has become.
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