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molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
January 29 2016 15:08 GMT
#741
LGD is such a wet noodle team.
it all matters
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 29 2016 15:09 GMT
#742
On January 30 2016 00:05 Steelavocado wrote:
Miracle might just be the best player in the world

How? Because he is the position one of a relevant team that is doing well lately?

I might have heard that somewhere else.
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
January 29 2016 15:10 GMT
#743
On January 30 2016 00:07 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:06 Super_Style wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:05 Steelavocado wrote:
Miracle might just be the best player in the world

Like, its not even debatable.

Really ?

He is on a whole new level, no one even comes close.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 29 2016 15:10 GMT
#744
On January 30 2016 00:05 Acritter wrote:
Chinese teams seem to never have the wherewithal to actually go and make the game happen. It's really sad seeing them lose in the exact same way as Digital Chaos with far higher player talent.


lgd != chinese teams
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:12:45
January 29 2016 15:11 GMT
#745
A player having high impact doesn't always make him the best player, I think. He is using the space. Created by his teammates to farm and carry them in the late game.its more like teamwork ,tbh..yeah he is pretty impressive ,but best? Thats wayy more overexxaggeration .
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
January 29 2016 15:12 GMT
#746
I'd say with the case of Newbee they try to make things happen too much. Hao's risky carry play is borderline idiotic at times.
it all matters
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 29 2016 15:12 GMT
#747
On January 30 2016 00:05 Steelavocado wrote:
Miracle might just be the best player in the world


He's playing the best of anyone at MDL at the moment. But we've gotten to see that because he's bailed his team out of a few bad drafts. But there's still a lot of the tournament left to play, so we'll see.

One of the things you need to win a major LAN is for one of your players to be playing out of his mind. OG won Frankfurt off Crit's play. They could win MDL off Miracle's.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 29 2016 15:13 GMT
#748
I'm totally on the Miracle hype train, but this wasn't exactly his most flawless game. Yeah the manta jukes were sick, but he died twice unnecessarily (after the rosh fight running up the ramp into sylar and at dire mid t1 when he went in without his team). The second death would've likely lost the game for his team if LGD had taken the chance on the buyback.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 29 2016 15:13 GMT
#749
On January 30 2016 00:11 Kamisamanachi wrote:
A player having high impact doesn't always make him the best player, I think. He is using the space. Created by his teammates to farm and carry them in the late game.its more like teamwork ,tbh..yeah he is pretty impressive

You mean Dota is a team game ? I've always thought it was 1 hero, 4 anchors and 5 ennemies.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:16:24
January 29 2016 15:14 GMT
#750
On January 30 2016 00:12 molecu wrote:
I'd say with the case of Newbee they try to make things happen too much. Hao's risky carry play is borderline idiotic at times.


Chuan has the ability to farm too much as a support at times and it sometimes doesn't match with the aggressive nature of hao that he wants to fight all the time
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 29 2016 15:14 GMT
#751
On January 30 2016 00:11 Kamisamanachi wrote:
A player having high impact doesn't always make him the best player, I think. He is using the space. Created by his teammates to farm and carry them in the late game.its more like teamwork ,tbh..yeah he is pretty impressive

Like Suma1l was, and now he is getting bashed.

Miracle is a great player, better than many, but being the best in the world in dota is an almost impossible to proof statement if not completely impossible.
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
January 29 2016 15:15 GMT
#752
Who's this Cuam guy? New and upcoming support player? And they say China lacks new talent!
it all matters
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2016 15:17 GMT
#753
I'm a Miracle fanboy but that was hardly the game to showcase his skills. First of all Morphling was an excellent, excellent hero against LGD's lineup and Miracle did not exactly play flawless. There were some interesting things he did but by no means did that game show him in another class of player.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 29 2016 15:19 GMT
#754
On January 30 2016 00:10 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:05 Acritter wrote:
Chinese teams seem to never have the wherewithal to actually go and make the game happen. It's really sad seeing them lose in the exact same way as Digital Chaos with far higher player talent.


lgd != chinese teams

It really depends who's doing the shotcalling. LGD's always had a safe style but rOtk has always been pretty conservative in late game shotcalling.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
January 29 2016 15:20 GMT
#755
On January 30 2016 00:14 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:11 Kamisamanachi wrote:
A player having high impact doesn't always make him the best player, I think. He is using the space. Created by his teammates to farm and carry them in the late game.its more like teamwork ,tbh..yeah he is pretty impressive

Like Suma1l was, and now he is getting bashed.

Miracle is a great player, better than many, but being the best in the world in dota is an almost impossible to proof statement if not completely impossible.

Why do you think so? Every other sport has the best player in the world and some sort of an award for it, hell, League of Legends has one and so does CSGO, what makes dota so special you cant name one?
molecu
Profile Joined June 2013
347 Posts
January 29 2016 15:21 GMT
#756
I don't know. This showed me that Miracle is one of the best core farming playmakers in the game, he is also one of the best afk ricers in the game. I don't think famed ricers like EE or RTZ could pull that networth off given how behind OG were most of the game.
it all matters
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
January 29 2016 15:22 GMT
#757
I think it was FATA or Mutumba that said that "any team with Miracle would have won the Frankfurt major"

His ability to carry and make the teammates around him play to the best of their ability puts him at #1 at this point in time
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 29 2016 15:24 GMT
#758
On January 30 2016 00:20 Super_Style wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:14 Racket wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:11 Kamisamanachi wrote:
A player having high impact doesn't always make him the best player, I think. He is using the space. Created by his teammates to farm and carry them in the late game.its more like teamwork ,tbh..yeah he is pretty impressive

Like Suma1l was, and now he is getting bashed.

Miracle is a great player, better than many, but being the best in the world in dota is an almost impossible to proof statement if not completely impossible.

Why do you think so? Every other sport has the best player in the world and some sort of an award for it, hell, League of Legends has one and so does CSGO, what makes dota so special you cant name one?

Whether other sports have something like that does not make it a must for dota, in addition, other sports having them has nothing to do with making an statement possible to proof.

Faker being considered the best player in LoL has to do with the nature and mechanics of the game rather than with decision making and teamwork.

Your turn.
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:26:37
January 29 2016 15:25 GMT
#759
On January 30 2016 00:20 Super_Style wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:14 Racket wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:11 Kamisamanachi wrote:
A player having high impact doesn't always make him the best player, I think. He is using the space. Created by his teammates to farm and carry them in the late game.its more like teamwork ,tbh..yeah he is pretty impressive

Like Suma1l was, and now he is getting bashed.

Miracle is a great player, better than many, but being the best in the world in dota is an almost impossible to proof statement if not completely impossible.

Why do you think so? Every other sport has the best player in the world and some sort of an award for it, hell, League of Legends has one and so does CSGO, what makes dota so special you cant name one?


Award is not equals to get called out by few fans/community people. And if there will be such thing as best player award in the future ,it sure will be affected by politics and region influence or it will be influenced by biased audiance if it gets done through voting.
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 29 2016 15:26 GMT
#760
I could also argue that Messi for instance plays a sport where the rules stay the same for decades, I would like to see how would perform if the only valid way to score was with your head.
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