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On July 19 2014 02:57 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:55 Numy wrote:On July 19 2014 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:54 Numy wrote:On July 19 2014 02:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
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I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it. Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack. That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota. I dunno, I thought it was an absurd stat, and it surprised me too. But I've watched all the big tournaments since February this year, and haven't seen that big of a comeback. So you've watched basically no dota. I'm new, what are you trying to say? Watching 300-400+ games is not no Dota. No need to be an elitist asshole. I'm not being elistest. You said that you've never seen it before which doesn't mean much if you are new to dota. Are you being serious right now? If I've been in the Dota community for a year, and have been watching A LOT in the half last year, I would think I should see some of these things. You are being an elitist.
a year is considered "new" in this community really
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opterown
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bat into venge is weird too
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VG line-up is so hard to play against NB stat
they need to find farm and exp and some pick-off
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On July 19 2014 02:58 opterown wrote:
bat into venge is weird too
its called being a man
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On July 19 2014 02:56 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:56 Noya wrote:On July 19 2014 02:55 lolfail9001 wrote:
Lvl1 Rosh or Rosh mindgame inc. They won't lvl 1 Rosh on Radiant versus a Batrider man Eh, been about time someone did that Nth furion suicide stuff, eh?
Someone did it this tourney, Titan maybe? LGD? An Asian team at any rate.
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Norway25712 Posts
someone in the crowd got a vuvuzela or some shit?
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On July 19 2014 02:56 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:54 Numy wrote:On July 19 2014 02:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it. Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack. That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota. I dunno, I thought it was an absurd stat, and it surprised me too. But I've watched all the big tournaments since February this year, and haven't seen that big of a comeback. So you've watched basically no dota. I'm new, what are you trying to say? Watching 300-400+ games is not no Dota. No need to be an elitist asshole. Wow wow, why so aggressive over your ego, he is right, you didn't watch too much DOTA if you haven't seen previous stages of it's evolution
I never commented on previous patches. I commented on what I've seen on it's current state (which is as much as you guys), and I shared my thoughts on some things I felt might be potential concerns. Just because I'm not here from the Warcraft 3 days (although have been in the BW scene since 2007) doesn't mean my opinion holds no weight in this matter.
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Well this is a less eventful start
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
that mass pinging hurts my ears
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On July 19 2014 02:58 KristofferAG wrote:
someone in the crowd got a vuvuzela or some shit?
Probably if it is like last year 
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On July 19 2014 02:57 acfireNT wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:51 Orome wrote:On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it. Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack. That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota. Those stats are also always skewed because a better team will almost never go 0-10 vs a worse team. The vast majority of the time, if a team is up 10-0, they were heavily favoured to begin with. If you took those replays and replayed them with top teams on the 0-10 side, I'm sure they'd turn some of them around. ESL One Frankfury IG vs EG 22-0
I don't see the contradiction. :D
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That venge set is so ugly.
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Norway25712 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:58 Drazerk wrote:its called being a man
this is why you lose.
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On July 19 2014 02:58 KristofferAG wrote:
someone in the crowd got a vuvuzela or some shit?
Same as last year. Doing the horn sound at the start.
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another rotk doom? i guess vg doesn´t want to end racism
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