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h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1501
On July 19 2014 02:54 kirsed wrote:
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On July 19 2014 02:53 h0munkulus wrote:
hmm, pod cams still offline. wonder if they have technical problems or if the players lobbied to not have them on...


They said that there wouldn't be sound but it seemed implied we would still get video but as you said we have nothing.


Yes, but I can't really imagine technical problems, especially because the pod-cams seem to be working as they sometimes show the shot of that cam during draft...
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1502
Newbee greed draft
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1503
boo no zeus
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1504
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1505
Has Batrider finally been knocked off his perch as first pick/ban material?
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1506
ok jungle/ancients tide then
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1507
last pick firemen
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1508
On July 19 2014 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:54 Numy wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
[quote]

You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.
That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota.


I dunno, I thought it was an absurd stat, and it surprised me too.

But I've watched all the big tournaments since February this year, and haven't seen that big of a comeback.


So you've watched basically no dota.


I'm new, what are you trying to say?

Watching 300-400+ games is not no Dota. No need to be an elitist asshole.

Wow wow, why so aggressive over your ego, he is right, you didn't watch too much DOTA if you haven't seen previous stages of it's evolution
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1509
interesting draft
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1510
On July 19 2014 02:56 Noya wrote:
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On July 19 2014 02:55 lolfail9001 wrote:
Lvl1 Rosh or Rosh mindgame inc.

They won't lvl 1 Rosh on Radiant versus a Batrider man

Eh, been about time someone did that Nth furion suicide stuff, eh?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
July 18 2014 17:56 GMT
#1511
Sylar prophet, super ember
here we go
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1512
On July 19 2014 02:55 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:54 Numy wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
[quote]

What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.
That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota.


I dunno, I thought it was an absurd stat, and it surprised me too.

But I've watched all the big tournaments since February this year, and haven't seen that big of a comeback.


So you've watched basically no dota.


I'm new, what are you trying to say?

Watching 300-400+ games is not no Dota. No need to be an elitist asshole.


I'm not being elistest. You said that you've never seen it before which doesn't mean much if you are new to dota.


Are you being serious right now?

If I've been in the Dota community for a year, and have been watching A LOT in the half last year, I would think I should see some of these things. You are being an elitist.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1513
dat bat pick bait working haha
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1514
On July 19 2014 02:56 nooboon wrote:
Has Batrider finally been knocked off his perch as first pick/ban material?


For about 6 months.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1515
On July 19 2014 02:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:54 Numy wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:52 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
[quote]

You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.
That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota.


I dunno, I thought it was an absurd stat, and it surprised me too.

But I've watched all the big tournaments since February this year, and haven't seen that big of a comeback.


So you've watched basically no dota.


I'm new, what are you trying to say?

Watching 300-400+ games is not no Dota. No need to be an elitist asshole.

The thing with dota is is that how games are played changes so much with new patches. Dota right now is completely different from TI3 which was completely different from TI2. So yeah you've seen a bunch of matches, but in a very short time period, you havent seen a lot of different styles of dota yet I presume.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
acfireNT
Profile Joined June 2014
Canada3 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1516
On July 19 2014 02:51 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
[quote]

they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.
That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota.


Those stats are also always skewed because a better team will almost never go 0-10 vs a worse team. The vast majority of the time, if a team is up 10-0, they were heavily favoured to begin with. If you took those replays and replayed them with top teams on the 0-10 side, I'm sure they'd turn some of them around.


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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1517
dno about this newbee draft but i hope it works out
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1518
should be a much longer game with such a greedy newbee plan

VC has a decent shot with this draft I think
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1519
Hurray, no xiao8 tide :D
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
July 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1520
VS good versus Bat if she gets lvl 11
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