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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2014 17:52 GMT
#1461
we get a long game 100% this time around
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 18 2014 17:52 GMT
#1462
A real clinic of a game from NB in game one. I hope they keep performing well. Lots of meat for the Luna coverage this game.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 18 2014 17:52 GMT
#1463
On July 19 2014 02:51 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:49 teapoted wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
[quote]

they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.
That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota.


Those stats are also always skewed because a better team will almost never go 0-10 vs a worse team. The vast majority of the time, if a team is up 10-0, they were heavily favoured to begin with. If you took those replays and replayed them with top teams on the 0-10 side, I'm sure they'd turn some of them around.


I know it makes sense.

I'm just saying, wouldn't you think this would happen at least a couple times in the history of Dota? I'm not basing my argument on that.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2014 17:52 GMT
#1464
fy support prophet?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 18 2014 17:52 GMT
#1465
AA + Furion is hopefully going to make Luna very, very sad.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1466
hmm, pod cams still offline. wonder if they have technical problems or if the players lobbied to not have them on...
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1467
Yes venge gogo.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1468
this game smells like Super! Storm
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1469
ALRIGHT! GAME TIME!
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1470
roshan strat from vici? Oo
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1471
is this the VG allin strat
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1472
On July 19 2014 02:48 HammerKick wrote:
Alright, now I want a disruptor or a VS.

Will they hear my pray?


:D
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1473
lvl1 roshan
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1474
Is rOtK getting outdrafted again?
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1475
On July 19 2014 02:52 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:51 teapoted wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:50 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:49 SKC wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
[quote]

You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.

10-0 in 15 minutes is absurdly huge. Teams that are getting curbstomped don't come back. That isn't surprising.


Why are we having a super cereal conversation about Nahaz stats.
30% of the time when conversations are had about Nahaz stats on a full moon it's super serious.


You should send an application for stat man at joindota.
I'm overqualified.
Once you Goblak...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 17:54:07
July 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1476
On July 19 2014 02:53 LemOn wrote:
roshan strat from vici? Oo


as radiant? lol

that would be ballsy
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 18 2014 17:54 GMT
#1477
On July 19 2014 02:53 h0munkulus wrote:
hmm, pod cams still offline. wonder if they have technical problems or if the players lobbied to not have them on...


They said that there wouldn't be sound but it seemed implied we would still get video but as you said we have nothing.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 18 2014 17:54 GMT
#1478
By Skree'auk's talons, level 1 Rosh is secured.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2014 17:54 GMT
#1479
so psyched for 5th newbee pick
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 18 2014 17:54 GMT
#1480
On July 19 2014 02:53 opterown wrote:
is this the VG allin strat

which one
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