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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1421
luna again whaaaa :O
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1422
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win
Well it's logical that if a team does well early game then their heroes are more suited to that phase.

Kills matter but you have to look at everything with consideration of the line-ups and what those kills actually represent. If your mid rotates over to another lane and you end up getting 0-3'ed. That's much worse than just losing 3 heroes randomly in lane.
Once you Goblak...
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1423
On July 19 2014 02:47 Purdy8TV wrote:
Doom is so terribly boring

"Doom's ultimate just ruins Dota for 12 seconds." -Jacky-dono
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1424
Counter the Lunaaaa!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1425
On July 19 2014 02:46 opterown wrote:
interesting contrast between the booths, vg huddled while newbee is all just sitting

vici always draft together it's kawaii as fuck
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1426
Alright, now I want a disruptor or a VS.

Will they hear my pray?
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 17:49:05
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1427
drafting early tide can still be punished by NB that offlane isn't free

yeeeeep AA gonna peck at you out of lane sir fish
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1428
On July 19 2014 02:48 Frazzlehoon wrote:
Counter the Lunaaaa!

Bat, where art tho?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1429
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1430
Please pick rubick VG.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1431
Also tide is not the best vs doom
all he needs is a dagger
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1432
With so many teams running heavy push lineups it makes me wonder why ezalor hasn't been picked at all this tournament
Bora Pain minha porra!
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#1433
On July 19 2014 02:48 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:48 Frazzlehoon wrote:
Counter the Lunaaaa!

Bat, where art tho?

He died with Titan.

He won them that second game, though.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 18 2014 17:49 GMT
#1434
On July 19 2014 02:48 Sbrubbles wrote:
With so many teams running heavy push lineups it makes me wonder why ezalor hasn't been picked at all this tournament

Can't gank mid.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
July 18 2014 17:49 GMT
#1435
5man doto round2 coming
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
July 18 2014 17:49 GMT
#1436
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.


Meh, that has a lot more to do with the lineups on each side (heavy push vs very little anti push) and VG's decisionmaking rather than the current metagame. Comebacks are well and alive; just not in this particular match.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 17:49:41
July 18 2014 17:49 GMT
#1437
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.

huh?
Mouz managed both pretty sure this very tournament
10-1 at least
they can kill all towers 7 minutes and be 20-0 and still manage to lose, somehow.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 17:49:38
July 18 2014 17:49 GMT
#1438
On July 19 2014 02:48 Sbrubbles wrote:
With so many teams running heavy push lineups it makes me wonder why ezalor hasn't been picked at all this tournament

because that thing doesn't do much vs shaman wards and dp ult,or creeps with a lot of health
u gotta farm
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 17:49:41
July 18 2014 17:49 GMT
#1439
On July 19 2014 02:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:46 solidbebe wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.

Very often you see games where one side takes a 9 - 0 lead and the game ends up evening out later. Early game kills dont matter all that much. This game was a draft win


Apparently a team has never come back from a defecit of 10-0 before the 15 minute mark in the history of Dota, and a team has never come back from a 4 tour deficit at the 15 minute mark either. That was some statistic said at either the Summit, ESL One, or Dreamhack.
That was probably a short term stat, like on a particular patch. It has certainly happened if we're counting all of Dota.
Once you Goblak...
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
July 18 2014 17:49 GMT
#1440
On July 19 2014 02:48 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:46 opterown wrote:
interesting contrast between the booths, vg huddled while newbee is all just sitting

vici always draft together it's kawaii as fuck


Heck yea. :D

Although EHOME last pick still has the best drafting ritual haha.
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