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On July 19 2014 02:44 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:43 LemOn wrote:On July 19 2014 02:42 Fusilero wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? Riot tends to force a certain approach, often an overreaction. In season 3 (Last year) there was a severe issue with high burst mid laners being too powerful and vision control being too easy to deny leading to absurd snowball. Now this year mid laners are primarily wave clear oriented, turrets are stronger, it's harder to deny vision and there's far more stalling. guys please we are discussing online gaming here, not garbage. hey no other game bashing Only Dota bashing here.
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On July 19 2014 02:44 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:43 LemOn wrote:On July 19 2014 02:42 Fusilero wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? Riot tends to force a certain approach, often an overreaction. In season 3 (Last year) there was a severe issue with high burst mid laners being too powerful and vision control being too easy to deny leading to absurd snowball. Now this year mid laners are primarily wave clear oriented, turrets are stronger, it's harder to deny vision and there's far more stalling. guys please we are discussing online gaming here, not garbage. hey no other game bashing
DON'T TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO FACIST. LITERALLY RIOT APPROVED POSTING
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On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.
It's more if they get kills with a lineup that's also really good at pushing. Kills without pushing isn't as damning
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we just need to bring ziggurats back
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On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.
I dunno I don't see that at all. The kill lead isn't what lost them the game here the retarded offensive trilane after feeding did.
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went to get lunch, managed to miss game 1 t.t
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
omg I am so bored. I miss the days when I had to jump between 4 games.
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I'm getting that feeling from when Sniper won GSL.
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On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.
it's not true. it's just VG's draft was bad.
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On July 19 2014 02:44 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:44 opterown wrote:On July 19 2014 02:43 LemOn wrote:On July 19 2014 02:42 Fusilero wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? Riot tends to force a certain approach, often an overreaction. In season 3 (Last year) there was a severe issue with high burst mid laners being too powerful and vision control being too easy to deny leading to absurd snowball. Now this year mid laners are primarily wave clear oriented, turrets are stronger, it's harder to deny vision and there's far more stalling. guys please we are discussing online gaming here, not garbage. hey no other game bashing DON'T TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO FACIST. LITERALLY RIOT APPROVED POSTING
don't push it man
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On July 19 2014 02:45 Daralii wrote:
I'm getting that feeling from when Sniper won GSL.
The best feeling?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:45 GMarshal wrote:
went to get lunch, managed to miss game 1 t.t
You missed nothing, push comp pushed, other comp too behind to stop gg no re.
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On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.
Well snowballing is a characteristic of fighting around ults and midgame deathballs, it'll become less frequent as people create a standard process to consistently disengage and fight around it.
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On July 19 2014 02:45 ForTehDarkseid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it. it's not true. it's just VG's draft was bad.
idk if it was bad, that seems to be hindsight
i think it was alright if they got something done and didnt feed fb to five people
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On July 19 2014 02:42 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this. I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.
The first blood just tilted an already very, very good laning advantage because of their weak draft. Their only way to lane it as they saw was to offensive tri and do well, because puck/ta on VG side were just going to get farm even if lesh/sd tried to gank them. The FB really messed up the trilane's success and from there VG just grasped at any gank tehy could until their supports were a mile behind in levels.
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THEY RUINED ANNOUNCER GUY ;_;
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On July 19 2014 02:44 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2014 02:43 LemOn wrote:On July 19 2014 02:42 Fusilero wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D: they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control. I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick. You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta. What do you mean? Riot tends to force a certain approach, often an overreaction. In season 3 (Last year) there was a severe issue with high burst mid laners being too powerful and vision control being too easy to deny leading to absurd snowball. Now this year mid laners are primarily wave clear oriented, turrets are stronger, it's harder to deny vision and there's far more stalling. guys please we are discussing online gaming here, not garbage. hey no other game bashing
that's racist.
Let's talk about how enigma gets picked now 100%
And we want a long game this time :D
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This wasn't just a 5 kill lead. This was a huge gold and XP advantage because they won all three lanes, with a jungler, against roaming supports. If you can't snowball hard after that, something is wrong.
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EPT
