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Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 17:41:35
July 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#1361
Poll: Recommend VG vs. Newbee Game 1?

Yes (14)
 
23%

If you have time (14)
 
23%

No (33)
 
54%

61 total votes

Your vote: Recommend VG vs. Newbee Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No



On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#1362
hmm I want to see a dual core plan with super storm
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#1363
Enigma will get picked next game
any bets against?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#1364
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?

riot tweaks a lot of things if strats aren't 'approved' by them, or so i hear. like they buffed towers massively in the first few minutes to stop push strats
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
July 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#1365
On July 19 2014 02:37 nooboon wrote:
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On July 19 2014 02:37 Latham wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:35 V1ctor wrote:
So if Newbee stomps VG again in 20 min, then what will they fill in 2h 30 min till next game?


Desk Banter.

They show another alliance video. Or Kaci.

Kaci please!!! Buying any signed chests autographed by her
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Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
July 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#1366
On July 19 2014 02:40 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
all 5 xiao8's bans were targeted at Super!, btw.

and they saw the DK pick coming, hence the 3rd pick TA.

genius pb imo.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 18 2014 17:41 GMT
#1367
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.

That's not towers being weak. That's one team being weak and not being able to fight the other team.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1368
On July 19 2014 02:41 pedrlz wrote:
I think VG went offensive trilane because they couldn't stop chen shaman luna push train.


Tbqh they could've traded towers by making a defensive tri but in the end they couldn't stop Nb's defensive tri with their aggro tri either lel
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-18 17:43:25
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1369
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?

Riot tends to force a certain approach, often an overreaction. In season 3 (Last year) there was a severe issue with high burst mid laners being too powerful and vision control being too easy to deny leading to absurd snowball. Now this year mid laners are primarily wave clear oriented, turrets are stronger, it's harder to deny vision and there's far more stalling.
This came to fore when bottom lanes (AD carries and supports) were 2v1ing top laners loads and they tried to buff towers to discourage the fast push the bottom lanes were doing.
Glorious SEA doto
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1370
alright newbee game 1 was easy but let's not get overconfident and go into game 2 with skill :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1371
why player cams aren't working for me?((
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1372
Super sticking around and not healing lost them the raxx there anyways.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1373
On July 19 2014 02:39 fixed_point wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:37 andyrau wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:35 Drazerk wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:33 blobrus wrote:
Chinese dota all about the farm right guys?????

I just watched them farm heroes and towers. Still farming.


that was more like plowing.

plowing is an important process in farming


it stopped at plowing, plowed too hard.

Well, there was also reaping.

it's not reaping when it's consensual

vg practically gave them fb rofl
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1374
On July 19 2014 02:41 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.

That's not towers being weak. That's one team being weak and not being able to fight the other team.
I think moonwells are too weak and useless.
Once you Goblak...
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 18 2014 17:42 GMT
#1375
On July 19 2014 02:41 kirsed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?


I mean that it's a good thing that games can end like this.


I suppose. It just feels like a lead of 5 kills has a 90%~ guarantee of winning the game with the current metagame. It's just a complete snowballing advantage. Don't like the idea of the entire game being decided by one first blood as some people in this thread are putting it.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
July 18 2014 17:43 GMT
#1376
On July 19 2014 02:42 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?

Riot tends to force a certain approach, often an overreaction. In season 3 (Last year) there was a severe issue with high burst mid laners being too powerful and vision control being too easy to deny leading to absurd snowball. Now this year mid laners are primarily wave clear oriented, turrets are stronger, it's harder to deny vision and there's far more stalling.

guys please
we are discussing online gaming here, not garbage.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
July 18 2014 17:43 GMT
#1377
Newbee's draft was so dreamy that game. Like every hero was just so well drafted and purposed. Even if VG had counter-push or the ability to not be pushed VG had themselves setup so well for Roshan attempts from early on and the picks also force VG into Newbee's jungle, but without VG having any chance of a level 1 fight advantage.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 18 2014 17:43 GMT
#1378
On July 19 2014 02:41 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?

riot tweaks a lot of things if strats aren't 'approved' by them, or so i hear. like they buffed towers massively in the first few minutes to stop push strats


Oh okay, I have never watched LoL, so I wouldn't know.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2014 17:44 GMT
#1379
On July 19 2014 02:43 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:42 Fusilero wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:40 kirsed wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.


You should be allowed to all in. I don't want a riot approved meta.


What do you mean?

Riot tends to force a certain approach, often an overreaction. In season 3 (Last year) there was a severe issue with high burst mid laners being too powerful and vision control being too easy to deny leading to absurd snowball. Now this year mid laners are primarily wave clear oriented, turrets are stronger, it's harder to deny vision and there's far more stalling.

guys please
we are discussing online gaming here, not garbage.

hey no other game bashing
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
July 18 2014 17:44 GMT
#1380
On July 19 2014 02:42 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2014 02:41 SKC wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:38 lolnoty wrote:
On July 19 2014 02:36 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Do you guys think towers are too useless and don't do enough in Dota? D:


they are insanely useful. a tower isn't a structure there to do damage, it's there as a TP beacon. It's purpose is zone control.


I know, just man... Seeing Newbee run away with that game like that, just super crazy quick.

That's not towers being weak. That's one team being weak and not being able to fight the other team.
I think moonwells are too weak and useless.

buff radiant buildings, dire structures too strong?
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