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[LR] The International II - 2012 - Page 212

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dogmode
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Philippines491 Posts
August 29 2012 12:02 GMT
#4221
On August 29 2012 13:33 Garnet wrote:
Any recommended games?

Also, people need to start banning Morph!!.


i also recommend:

Mouz vs. Zenith (Game 2) - Mouz basically fooled around with a heavy gank line-up. Hilarity ensues
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
August 29 2012 13:58 GMT
#4222
On August 29 2012 20:58 SKC wrote:
Draskyl + Aysee, Sheever, the AL guys, 2GD, etc. also casted matches in english. The official international site has the links to the VODs, if they are uploaded, so it should be fairly easy to find. Some of them seem to be only avaible on the client though, or at least not yet linked on the website.


On August 29 2012 20:48 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:37 konadora wrote:
i've only watched half of the VODs available on joindota and lddota's youtube channels, but so far that's just my impression

only 1 navi game i've watched have they won so far ~_~

Ohh. Sorry for the spoilers, I didn't expect anyone who haven't seen the games post in a LR thread.
edit: Also, check Luminous' yt channel. They split the games him and LD cast between them to upload.

oh lumi also has games? awesome, thx!

did they cast games that tobi/ld/lumi didnt cast?
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 14:07:31
August 29 2012 14:04 GMT
#4223
On August 29 2012 22:58 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:58 SKC wrote:
Draskyl + Aysee, Sheever, the AL guys, 2GD, etc. also casted matches in english. The official international site has the links to the VODs, if they are uploaded, so it should be fairly easy to find. Some of them seem to be only avaible on the client though, or at least not yet linked on the website.


Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 20:48 cecek wrote:
On August 29 2012 20:37 konadora wrote:
i've only watched half of the VODs available on joindota and lddota's youtube channels, but so far that's just my impression

only 1 navi game i've watched have they won so far ~_~

Ohh. Sorry for the spoilers, I didn't expect anyone who haven't seen the games post in a LR thread.
edit: Also, check Luminous' yt channel. They split the games him and LD cast between them to upload.

oh lumi also has games? awesome, thx!

did they cast games that tobi/ld/lumi didnt cast?


Ussually each english caster got a diferent game to cast and in very few cases there were multiple casters for the same game.

http://www.dota2.com/international/prelims/schedule/sunday/

This is probally the easiest way to search for matches, there are no spoilers and it ussually direct you to the youtube VODs. Some VODs are still missing, but the main casters (LD/Draskyl/Tobi) already have all games they casted over there (I think).
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
August 29 2012 14:49 GMT
#4224
Leaving in 6 hours!!
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
August 29 2012 21:08 GMT
#4225
So the real fun starts on Friday, right?
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 29 2012 21:11 GMT
#4226
NA comp dota scene finally alive again, 2 in ub and arguably the best 2 teams not at the international. Little doubt if invites were done today we would probably see some of those cis invites go to na teams.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 29 2012 21:12 GMT
#4227
Quantic and Potm bottom are top NA teams?

Never heard of that.
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#4228
On August 29 2012 11:38 dtz wrote:
Apparently IG chose EG and LGD chose Orange.

So col vs Zenith and Navi vs DK.

I feel like the way DK has been playing this tournament will really suit Navi well. Navi is probably best when they are holding tower and map advantage. DK has been kinda lacklustre in early game sometimes this tournament and often need to come back from behind while relying on Burning. That's harder to do against Navi than anyone else( maybe that's just their game plan though)

IG > EG. Easy 2-0 win probably. I just hope that EG won't try to do cheese push aoe strats anymore. Not gonna work against Chinese teams as proven on Day 1. If Fear and Bulba and Demon are on form and they got an early advantage like Darer did, i think EG should have more patience and late game understanding to capitalize. Not gonna be easy by any means though.

Zenith > Col 2-1. To be honest , if zenith is on form, it won't be close. But that's the thing with zenith, you never know which hyhy or ice are gonna show up.

Navi > DK 2-1. Just for the sake of spicing things up. If i were a betting man though, DK > Navi 2-1 with Dendi pudge taking game 1 and being banned the rest of the series.

LGD > Orange 2-0. If Orange wants to put any fight, Mushi and Yamateh need to be really on form. Winter has been playing well but ice hasn't been.



Both the 1 seeds should stomp, but zenith col should be close if both are on their game, col did have a better record in a far harder group(aruably 7 teams in group b were better than clg and arguably even eg)
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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 29 2012 21:25 GMT
#4229
On August 30 2012 06:12 Yoshi- wrote:
Quantic and Potm bottom are top NA teams?

Never heard of that.


They aren't top, but in the past few months they have been far better than we, mouz, m5, darer and al.

PB especially has done very well in the past few months against teams that are in the tournament.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 21:31:44
August 29 2012 21:27 GMT
#4230
On August 30 2012 06:25 bigjenk wrote:
PB especially has done very well in the past few months against teams that are in the tournament.

They're also a team with zero LAN experience, which has a huge effect on a team's ability to perform.

Even if they have better online results, I wouldn't expect PB to do better than m5/Darer/etc., given their lack of LAN experience.
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Maand
Profile Joined April 2010
326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 21:44:58
August 29 2012 21:44 GMT
#4231
mTw was in the same position as PB when they acquired new roster. Some caster was calling such good results with a new roster "honeymoon period". So yeah, each time new team surfaces and beats medium to high level teams I'am reluctant to make calls such as "this team is better than A, B and C."
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 21:55:53
August 29 2012 21:47 GMT
#4232
I actually don't think Darer played THAT badly on this tournament. They ended up 3-11, but they took games off Orange, Ehome and mTw, while m5 and mouz got 1 win each by defeating each other and took 1 game each off AL. Darer had a much harder group and manage to actually do something against respected teams, while Mouz and M5 were a joke the whole tournament. For a team that wasn't playing well at all so far, they did better than I expected.

I'm not sure PB or specially Quantic could do much better in that group.

Speaking of LAN experience, have Col actually played on LAN before? I don't remember them or Fire in any major lan event.
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
August 29 2012 21:54 GMT
#4233
On August 30 2012 06:47 SKC wrote:
I actually don't think Darer played THAT badly on this tournament. They ended up 3-11, but they took games off Orange, Ehome and mTw, while m5 and mouz got 1 win each by defeating each other and took 1 game each off AL. Darer had a much harder group and manage to actually do something against respected teams, while Mouz and M5 were a joke the whole tournament. For a team that wasn't playing well at all so far, they did better than I expected.

I'm not sure PB or specially Quantic could do much better in that group.


I would have to agree, even though im from noth america and love PB, I think they would be hard pressed to win more then a few games.

And darer did better then i thought they would, so did M5 to be honest... i didnt think they would win a single game.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 29 2012 21:55 GMT
#4234
darer played extremely well vs iG btw... personally i think they play vs asian teams way better than navi.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 29 2012 21:58 GMT
#4235
I thought AL did well too. Many people were calling them weakest team at the international but they showed they clearly are not. Them and Darer should be proud.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 29 2012 22:05 GMT
#4236
Yo, Zenith will beat Col so hard it won't be funny. And I think that Orange/LGD will be close, maybe a 2-0 for a team, but closes games. NaVi will lose and EG will pull specials taktiks but ultimately lose 2-1.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 29 2012 22:09 GMT
#4237
Those booths are sick

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dota2ti/7889479868/in/photostream
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windzor
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1013 Posts
August 29 2012 22:11 GMT
#4238
On August 30 2012 06:47 SKC wrote:
I actually don't think Darer played THAT badly on this tournament. They ended up 3-11, but they took games off Orange, Ehome and mTw, while m5 and mouz got 1 win each by defeating each other and took 1 game each off AL. Darer had a much harder group and manage to actually do something against respected teams, while Mouz and M5 were a joke the whole tournament. For a team that wasn't playing well at all so far, they did better than I expected.

I'm not sure PB or specially Quantic could do much better in that group.

Speaking of LAN experience, have Col actually played on LAN before? I don't remember them or Fire in any major lan event.


First LAN for coL afaik. But the thing that keeps them up, is that they have been stable team in the NA scene far longer than PB or Quantic, and EG for that matter. If PB got their form 1-2 months earlier they could have been into the qualification tournament, but they got a good form too late to get anything for TI2. But if they keep their form they'll be a heavy contender for TI3...
Yeah
bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
August 29 2012 22:15 GMT
#4239
On August 30 2012 06:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2012 06:25 bigjenk wrote:
PB especially has done very well in the past few months against teams that are in the tournament.

They're also a team with zero LAN experience, which has a huge effect on a team's ability to perform.

Even if they have better online results, I wouldn't expect PB to do better than m5/Darer/etc., given their lack of LAN experience.


Darer possibly, but m5 has been an absolute joke as of late, their last win against a team with a sponsorship that wasn't all standin vp was almost 2 months ago.

Col showing lan history isn't everything as well so far.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 29 2012 22:20 GMT
#4240
Groups stages are still diferent than when the real tournament starts though. When they all get in that booth, in from of a huge crowd and playing for elimination with every team showing everything they have prepared for the tournament we will be able to tell if the lack of experience will affect them. Right now, they are basically in a room all by themselfs from what I could see from the pictures, it's hard to call that a real major LAN tournament.
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