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On September 08 2012 03:04 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 13:00 superstartran wrote:
430's Tinker was forced to leave lanes, camp runes, while also assisting his team. This wasn't exactly an ideal situation at all for him, while Dendi was allowed to basically free farm mid uncontested. In every other game he faced 430, 430 was beating him quite handily until Dendi's team came to bail him out. He was forced to leave lanes because he knew he was getting beat. A mid Tinker's main goal is to farm a BoT ASAP. Rune control is useful, sure, but only when it helps you farm / gank and 430 did neither well that game. 430 did not beat him 'quite handily' every other game on even lanes. Bring up one game where 430 beat him 'handily' on even lanes. TA vs. DK is not an even lane, and TA vs. DK + Puppey support is worse because Puppey does not know how to lane - we saw that whenever he played out of the jungle. Dendi outplayed 430 several times this tournament, and it's sad that people don't see it. Another example I remember is when 430 and Dendi were contesting a rune, TA vs. Rubick, and 430 invis'd ontop of the rune but Dendi still stole it with his better timing.
who care in the end IG with 430 win ti2
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But he is an european fanboy so he needs to be delusional about every game where a european team lost.
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Still waiting for him to reply in the "how did your predictions turn out thread"
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On September 08 2012 03:04 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2012 13:00 superstartran wrote:
430's Tinker was forced to leave lanes, camp runes, while also assisting his team. This wasn't exactly an ideal situation at all for him, while Dendi was allowed to basically free farm mid uncontested. In every other game he faced 430, 430 was beating him quite handily until Dendi's team came to bail him out. He was forced to leave lanes because he knew he was getting beat. A mid Tinker's main goal is to farm a BoT ASAP. Rune control is useful, sure, but only when it helps you farm / gank and 430 did neither well that game. 430 did not beat him 'quite handily' every other game on even lanes. Bring up one game where 430 beat him 'handily' on even lanes. TA vs. DK is not an even lane, and TA vs. DK + Puppey support is worse because Puppey does not know how to lane - we saw that whenever he played out of the jungle. Dendi outplayed 430 several times this tournament, and it's sad that people don't see it. Another example I remember is when 430 and Dendi were contesting a rune, TA vs. Rubick, and 430 invis'd ontop of the rune but Dendi still stole it with his better timing.
It was QoP vs DK/Rubick; obviously someone's making shit up. QoP vs DK with a support is a match-up where DK should end up more farmed than QoP; however, not only was Dendi not keeping up, he was straight losing in CS, while QoP also got alot of runes despite Dendi having flame breathe to push creeps and Puppey to premptively go to the runes.
LOL; in group stage Dendi got crushed by 430, and in the winner bracket 430's Puck was winning until Dendi's team came and bailed him out. Dendi outplayed Ferrari several times? Dendi is neither in the top GPM, top kills, nor top assists. Ferrari averaged over 6 kills a game in TI2; Dendi had a much lower average (I think it was like in the 4 kill range per game). Believe what you want; Ferrari statistically outplayed Dendi the entire tournament. He also passed the eyesight test, and has the H2H advantage over him in mid lanes won.
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The thread needs to be renamed to Azarkon vs the world.
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Do you guys know where to watch the group stages of TI2?
Any vods ?
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If you have the client you can just watch ingame by going watch tab -> international
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dendi plays a better rubick than 430, thats it. and maybe invoker, since 430 hasnt played invoker for so long due to every team banning it
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On September 08 2012 15:57 BlackGosu wrote:
dendi plays a better rubick than 430, thats it. and maybe invoker, since 430 hasnt played invoker for so long due to every team banning it
Lol pretty sure if you have to ban the hero they are probably damn good with it, even if they haven't played it in a while. Otherwise why ban it.
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On September 08 2012 10:38 Numy wrote:
If you have the client you can just watch ingame by going watch tab -> international
Thanks.
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Well I never watched a Dota 2 match in my life and my only experience with Moba is LoL. Can I still watch the final and enjoy it? Would I be able to understand and follow what is going on?
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On September 09 2012 07:45 Applesmack wrote:
Well I never watched a Dota 2 match in my life and my only experience with Moba is LoL. Can I still watch the final and enjoy it? Would I be able to understand and follow what is going on?
Yes, the casters does a fantastic job. In fact, you may find out that you like dota more than LOL.
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On September 09 2012 07:45 Applesmack wrote:
Well I never watched a Dota 2 match in my life and my only experience with Moba is LoL. Can I still watch the final and enjoy it? Would I be able to understand and follow what is going on?
The games are practically the same in a basic sense, but I would recommend going to the Liquipedia and looking up all the heroes that get picked so you know what their abilities do. Otherwise you might feel kind of lost and likely won't learn much.
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if the spectators client is still up, while watching the game, you can see what the spells do, damage and effect, making it more easier to understand what's going on the game.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
if not for the naga counter thing navi would not be in the finals let alone in a discussion with ig. far inferior team.
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On September 10 2012 04:59 oneofthem wrote:
if not for the naga counter thing navi would not be in the finals let alone in a discussion with ig. far inferior team.
If a "far inferior" team can take 3 games off such a superior team as iG, even with this "Naga counter", maybe iG needs to re-evaluate their play. How can they lose to such a worse team so many times, and being countered the same way 3 times.
Also, by "Naga counter" do you mean Juggernaut pick? Twice? Cause they lost to it twice.
Or Rubick? Or Enigma + Rubick + midgame BKB?
It would be nice if you backed up your fanboy (or Na'Vi hate) a little bit.
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