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hyptonic
Profile Joined June 2011
2155 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3941
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks
Depetrify
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
978 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3942
It starts in 8 minutes?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3943
On August 12 2013 07:51 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:45 Shikyo wrote:
"No one likes advantages", well how about the advantage that Na'Vi is still in the tournament after losing a series?


Countered by the disadvantage of having to go through an extra series that Alliance didn't have to play. Breaks even.

that's some funny logic, it's kinda like how people with social phobia think, missing chances and opportunities is great because they don't get exposed :D
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3944
On August 12 2013 07:51 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:45 Shikyo wrote:
"No one likes advantages", well how about the advantage that Na'Vi is still in the tournament after losing a series?


Countered by the disadvantage of having to go through an extra series that Alliance didn't have to play. Breaks even.


countered by the advantage that navi got to essentially play a warmup practice set going into the grand finals, while alliance sits in the green room twiddling their thumbs.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3945
On August 12 2013 07:52 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:51 BurningSera wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:46 Erasme wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:35 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:33 VAGZ wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:31 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:29 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:28 AlexYs wrote:
rofl so many butthurt na'vi haters in here..pathetic.


so many blind navi fanboys too, acting like navi are gods and they made a miraculous comeback, when it was clear that orange was on tilt after that aegis deny

Yeah, its called being cool under pressure. Its the sign of a great team.

The salty Orange fans are funny. Orange is a great team and played really well, but couldn't hold it together in the end.


That had nothing to do with it. If they didn't deny the aegis Na'Vi lost, simple as that.

People who are far better at Dota 2 disagree with you. Even with the aegis, they might not have been able to break the base. They have one damage source that was losing steam.

I disagree with all of you, Orange wouldve won that game with that aegis.


Seriously, people underestimate how huge of that aegis deny did to the players mind, sea players are especially 'weak' in that department.


Well, then that weakness lost them the game. Better work on that.

Hahaha I imagine a game with cheats enabled and ky xy have to CS without denying countless aegis on the ground.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3946
On August 12 2013 07:53 Depetrify wrote:
It starts in 8 minutes?


Nah.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3947
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks

wat?!
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 11 2013 22:53 GMT
#3948
Fucking lifereport threads and their format discussions. Just enjoy the finals without any complicated ruling.
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ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3949
On August 12 2013 07:44 dmnum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:41 Fruscainte wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:37 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:35 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:33 VAGZ wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:31 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:29 anonymitylol wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:28 AlexYs wrote:
rofl so many butthurt na'vi haters in here..pathetic.


so many blind navi fanboys too, acting like navi are gods and they made a miraculous comeback, when it was clear that orange was on tilt after that aegis deny

Yeah, its called being cool under pressure. Its the sign of a great team.

The salty Orange fans are funny. Orange is a great team and played really well, but couldn't hold it together in the end.


That had nothing to do with it. If they didn't deny the aegis Na'Vi lost, simple as that.

People who are far better at Dota 2 disagree with you. Even with the aegis, they might not have been able to break the base. They have one damage source that was losing steam.

You don't take psychological effect in account.
Nobody is saying that if Aegis was on Orange it was like instant win, but the game wouldn't have ended so abruptly.
Anyone who denies that is a blind NaVi fanboy.


"Anyone who disagrees with me is clearly a fanboy so I can dismiss their opinions"

The game would have been about as bad. Orange had one damage dealer and everyone on Na'Vi were getting BKB's and frankly he was losing steam. Na'Vi had an overall better lineup and the gap wasn't that big to begin with.

The aegis was embarrassing but it wouldn't have made a huge difference. Maybe one more half of a teamfight would have been in their favor.

EDIT:

KACI PLS

ignore darkseid, every since this ti started he has been flaming na'vi and calling everyone who defends them a fanboy

You're good at bending stick in your favor, I see.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3950
On August 12 2013 07:45 hyptonic wrote:
i wonder what all you're excuses will be when navi gets stomped again...


You know there were alot of us (whoever "us" is in this case) who congratulated alliance (and the teams who took games off of navi), celebrated their awesome performance etc.
Can you all just stop the hate and feel the love?
AlexYs
Profile Joined September 2012
Zimbabwe357 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3951
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks


I can understand this about Alliace, but Na'Vi boring ? Maybe in an alternate universe pal!
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 22:54:49
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3952
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks


This is a competition about who the best DotA teams are. The Chinese were not among them this time. So yeah... If you don't like it you shouldn't watch

Also Na'vi is one of the most aggressive teams in the world so I don't even get your point... or your trolling.
Y
Profile Joined May 2013
254 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3953
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks


wat.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3954
On August 12 2013 07:52 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:45 Shikyo wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:42 Galek wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:40 nojok wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:39 tomatriedes wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:38 Asha` wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:37 TheButtonmen wrote:
What a very fucked up format.

Valve not even giving a games advantage to winners bracket is fucked.


No one likes game advantages. They make for fucking boring finals 80% of the time.


Agreed.

Disagreed.

Well Alliance would play 2 games instead of 3 no big deal in this specific finals

I wouldn't like that for the 1 game advantage.

I think that it should be a Bo7 with Alliance having a 1 game advantage. That way we have 3-6 games, so only 1 more than now, with just 1 possibility for that.

"No one likes advantages", well how about the advantage that Na'Vi is still in the tournament after losing a series?

Explain to me how Orange got 3rd place after losing 6 games in prelims?

Prelims? No one was eliminated in prelims. Even MUFC was in. Grasping to straws much? Teams were eliminated in the bracket, after losing twice. Everyone but Alliance, that is. Who did the best. This means that you give a disadvantage to the team who did the best.

I can think of this as a qualifier for the grand finals, in which case I just think that this is a really really bad tournament format but at least won't be outright wrong.

The whole playoffs is a "prelims" for the grand finals. You can take the easy road which is to just stay in the winner's bracket the entire time and play less series as a reward for your performance, or you can take the harder route of having to go through an extra top team. Then the grand finals start.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3955
On August 12 2013 07:52 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:45 Shikyo wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:42 Galek wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:40 nojok wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:39 tomatriedes wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:38 Asha` wrote:
On August 12 2013 07:37 TheButtonmen wrote:
What a very fucked up format.

Valve not even giving a games advantage to winners bracket is fucked.


No one likes game advantages. They make for fucking boring finals 80% of the time.


Agreed.

Disagreed.

Well Alliance would play 2 games instead of 3 no big deal in this specific finals

I wouldn't like that for the 1 game advantage.

I think that it should be a Bo7 with Alliance having a 1 game advantage. That way we have 3-6 games, so only 1 more than now, with just 1 possibility for that.

"No one likes advantages", well how about the advantage that Na'Vi is still in the tournament after losing a series?

Explain to me how Orange got 3rd place after losing 6 games in prelims?

Prelims? No one was eliminated in prelims. Even MUFC was in. Grasping to straws much? Teams were eliminated in the bracket, after losing twice. Everyone but Alliance, that is. Who did the best. This means that you give a disadvantage to the team who did the best.

I can think of this as a qualifier for the grand finals, in which case I just think that this is a really really bad tournament format but at least won't be outright wrong.


There is no disadvantage in starting series off with a 0-0.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3956
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks


Depends how mad you are. I'm super excited, then again, I'm not mad.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3957
On August 12 2013 07:53 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks

wat?!

Maybe he thinks orange and zenith are Chinese.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
cchriss
Profile Joined June 2009
United States912 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3958
On August 12 2013 07:54 AlexYs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks


I can understand this about Alliace, but Na'Vi boring ? Maybe in an alternate universe pal!

Alliance vs Navi boring sadly.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3959
The way I see it, when playing in any double elim tournament, the player/s in the WB gets the advantage of being able to rest, clear his mind while also studying the other player/s strategies and tactics. Meanwhile those coming from the LB have to play more games, go trough more fatigue and reveal their strategies/tactics. Personally I feel like that's enough of an advantage for the WB player/s.

In this particular instance Alliance had the whole day to relax or do some friendly skrims and warm up if they felt like it or just watch and study Na'vi which is just as valuable at this point.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 11 2013 22:54 GMT
#3960
On August 12 2013 07:53 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 07:53 hyptonic wrote:
so disappointing as a spectator that the two most boring teams besides mouz make it to the final.

at least the chinese teams varied their picks

wat?!


Also the first sentence.

wat?!

how is navi a boring team?
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