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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 17:23:57
February 08 2012 17:23 GMT
#1501
I assumed they would have done away with stuff like unarmored and medium armor and some of the damage types because they seemed unnecessary. But then again I dont know anything about dota really.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 08 2012 17:43 GMT
#1502
a lot of things would have to be rebalanced if different armor/damage types were removed
for example rhasta/veno wards would be ridiculously strong if they did 100% damage to everything, and towers would go down extremely quickly if they didn't have fortified armor

i don't like it much since it does make damage/health values a little misleading for new players, but i suppose it does add a bit of variety
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
February 08 2012 21:08 GMT
#1503
Any idea if/when more modes will come to MM? I was never a fan of pure AP, and I kinda miss SD.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
February 08 2012 21:24 GMT
#1504
i got a beta key today but there is no second key for my friend. Is this how it is now?
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 08 2012 21:26 GMT
#1505
Yes
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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
February 08 2012 21:26 GMT
#1506
On February 09 2012 06:24 archonOOid wrote:
i got a beta key today but there is no second key for my friend. Is this how it is now?


Did you look at the Invites menu in Steam? That's where it would show up.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 09 2012 18:41 GMT
#1507
On February 09 2012 02:43 Dead9 wrote:
a lot of things would have to be rebalanced if different armor/damage types were removed
for example rhasta/veno wards would be ridiculously strong if they did 100% damage to everything, and towers would go down extremely quickly if they didn't have fortified armor

i don't like it much since it does make damage/health values a little misleading for new players, but i suppose it does add a bit of variety


They need to make it clearer or easier. Armor type, armor values, spell resistance, magic resistance is a giant clusterfuck to digest. Moving away from the War3 engine will help but its still annoying to figure out damage.
Get it by your hands...
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 19:15:52
February 09 2012 19:14 GMT
#1508
On February 09 2012 06:24 archonOOid wrote:
i got a beta key today but there is no second key for my friend. Is this how it is now?


I believe the earlier keys had invites attached with them, now they are cutting down since there is so much circulation as is. Didn't Valve only recently increase their server capacity? There is a healthy, active pool in the Beta.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
February 10 2012 03:33 GMT
#1509
On February 09 2012 06:24 archonOOid wrote:
i got a beta key today but there is no second key for my friend. Is this how it is now?

I got my key 2 days ago and it came with 2 invites.
Another guy I know got his last week and it came with 2 invites.
We both got our keys from playdota.com
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 06:40:23
February 10 2012 06:36 GMT
#1510
Is it just me or does BH have good carry potential? Everyone says he is a ganker that doesn't do well late game, however my friends and I have played him as a carry with battlefury first (big) item in order to get farmed and destroy even very tanky people in a few hits. Is this simply because any hero who has any sort off carry potential farms a decent amount can destroy pubs (especially with the invisibility to pick of lone stragglers)?
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 10 2012 06:43 GMT
#1511
On February 10 2012 15:36 LAN-f34r wrote:
Is it just me or does BH have good carry potential? Everyone says he is a ganker that doesn't do well late game, however my friends and I have played him as a carry with battlefury first (big) item in order to get farmed and destroy even very tanky people in a few hits. Is this simply because any hero who has any sort off carry potential farms a decent amount can destroy pubs (especially with the invisibility to pick of lone stragglers)?


Not to mention he snowballs ridiculously hard with his ult. Even with only OK farm early game he can get pretty fat, and help your team to do the same with his ult alone.
Jieun <3
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
February 10 2012 07:17 GMT
#1512
On February 10 2012 15:36 LAN-f34r wrote:
Is it just me or does BH have good carry potential? Everyone says he is a ganker that doesn't do well late game, however my friends and I have played him as a carry with battlefury first (big) item in order to get farmed and destroy even very tanky people in a few hits. Is this simply because any hero who has any sort off carry potential farms a decent amount can destroy pubs (especially with the invisibility to pick of lone stragglers)?


He gets destroyed later by real carries like void, phantom assassin etc. and ranged heroes. BH's only passive skill cannot compare lategame to the skills of these, so BH's goal is to end early.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 10 2012 07:23 GMT
#1513
On February 10 2012 15:36 LAN-f34r wrote:
Is it just me or does BH have good carry potential? Everyone says he is a ganker that doesn't do well late game, however my friends and I have played him as a carry with battlefury first (big) item in order to get farmed and destroy even very tanky people in a few hits. Is this simply because any hero who has any sort off carry potential farms a decent amount can destroy pubs (especially with the invisibility to pick of lone stragglers)?

Closer to this. As an agility semi-carry, he will still naturally have good development, but the same could be said of heroes like Razor or Viper. Ultimately though, many of the harder carries in the pool have significantly better natural lategame development. He has to take advantage of his ganking power to push the tempo of the game forward.

Personally, I really dislike Battlefury on him. Not only are the faster-paced ganking-oriented builds like Janggo->BKB more suited to his kit, they're also more fun to play IMO than sitting in lane and farming.
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 10 2012 08:10 GMT
#1514
I recall there being a page on the Dota 2 wiki that showed a list of differences between DotA and Dota 2, can anyone link me to it?
ffxiv enjoyer
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 10 2012 08:15 GMT
#1515
On February 10 2012 17:10 DoNotDisturb wrote:
I recall there being a page on the Dota 2 wiki that showed a list of differences between DotA and Dota 2, can anyone link me to it?

http://www.dota2wiki.com/wiki/Changes_from_DotA
Just go to wiki and type changes from dota.
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The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
February 10 2012 12:27 GMT
#1516
On February 10 2012 12:33 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 06:24 archonOOid wrote:
i got a beta key today but there is no second key for my friend. Is this how it is now?

I got my key 2 days ago and it came with 2 invites.
Another guy I know got his last week and it came with 2 invites.
We both got our keys from playdota.com


It is weird, I dunno what is up with invites. My friend got a key a month ago from the draw, he got no invites with the key (not in his inventory).

Another friend I had got it a week later in the same draw, except he got 2 invites, one of which was passed onto me.
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
February 11 2012 15:48 GMT
#1517
Battle Fury on Gondar is really good but as TheYango stated its important that you always push the pace. If the game slows down because you can't pick off heroes and your team isn't worth much in terms of helping with that then increased farm from Battle Fury is what keeps you sufficiently ahead of 'real' carries until you can (hopefully) end the game.
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
February 11 2012 20:00 GMT
#1518
What's the rationale for buying BF on kunkka?
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
February 11 2012 21:02 GMT
#1519
On February 12 2012 05:00 scorch- wrote:
What's the rationale for buying BF on kunkka?

Farming, regen to stick around, the two cleaves stack, etc. Overall I prefer rushing lothar / crit / tanking items, but bf is definitely fine.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
February 11 2012 21:15 GMT
#1520
On February 12 2012 06:02 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 05:00 scorch- wrote:
What's the rationale for buying BF on kunkka?

Farming, regen to stick around, the two cleaves stack, etc. Overall I prefer rushing lothar / crit / tanking items, but bf is definitely fine.


Bfury if you have a good farm going. What 5-s said is very good also.
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