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On December 18 2011 01:18 Bloodash wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 00:31 Qbek wrote:On December 18 2011 00:24 Bloodash wrote:On December 17 2011 23:55 Qbek wrote:On December 17 2011 23:43 Bloodash wrote:
simple question, is there a votekick?
or any ingame commands? Democracy is not the way to go in dota games, that's why i'll never support voting in dota2. well its just to get rid of those eternally afk dudes and take their items in pub games :p Aren't they kicked automatically? nope, people who disconnect are given control after 5 minutes as far as I know, and items are greyed out if you try to use them, so as far as I know there are 0 ways of taking items of people who don't play anymore
Dota 1 this should only happen if you play switch on. Unless most bots auto disable it.
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is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking).
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On December 19 2011 23:54 haitike wrote:
is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking).
Bat Rider is extremely strong and underplayed right now. Very surprising, seeing as he is almost permaban in DotA 1 competitive play.
He's often played on the long lane, but he should be reasonable in any lane (putting him in the short lane is kind of a waste though, given how strong his laning is to begin with).
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can u still do moves like leap and arrow backwards for potm?
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On December 20 2011 00:23 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2011 23:54 haitike wrote:
is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking). Bat Rider is extremely strong and underplayed right now. Very surprising, seeing as he is almost permaban in DotA 1 competitive play. He's often played on the long lane, but he should be reasonable in any lane (putting him in the short lane is kind of a waste though, given how strong his laning is to begin with).
He should be soloing mid.
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On December 20 2011 00:35 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
can u still do moves like leap and arrow backwards for potm?
Backarrow and eastarrow are both not in dota2.
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On December 20 2011 00:37 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 00:23 TheYango wrote:On December 19 2011 23:54 haitike wrote:
is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking). Bat Rider is extremely strong and underplayed right now. Very surprising, seeing as he is almost permaban in DotA 1 competitive play. He's often played on the long lane, but he should be reasonable in any lane (putting him in the short lane is kind of a waste though, given how strong his laning is to begin with). He should be soloing mid.
In most competitive matches I've seen him in, he was put sidelane.
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On December 20 2011 04:35 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 00:37 Numy wrote:On December 20 2011 00:23 TheYango wrote:On December 19 2011 23:54 haitike wrote:
is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking). Bat Rider is extremely strong and underplayed right now. Very surprising, seeing as he is almost permaban in DotA 1 competitive play. He's often played on the long lane, but he should be reasonable in any lane (putting him in the short lane is kind of a waste though, given how strong his laning is to begin with). He should be soloing mid. In most competitive matches I've seen him in, he was put sidelane solo.
So I should Solo with him (Solo Lane with a jungler or Solo Mid). Thanks.
What about the build, Most guides that I have checked suggest Vanguard/Blink Dagger.
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On December 20 2011 05:40 haitike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 04:35 TheYango wrote:On December 20 2011 00:37 Numy wrote:On December 20 2011 00:23 TheYango wrote:On December 19 2011 23:54 haitike wrote:
is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking). Bat Rider is extremely strong and underplayed right now. Very surprising, seeing as he is almost permaban in DotA 1 competitive play. He's often played on the long lane, but he should be reasonable in any lane (putting him in the short lane is kind of a waste though, given how strong his laning is to begin with). He should be soloing mid. In most competitive matches I've seen him in, he was put sidelane solo. So I should Solo with him (Solo Lane with a jungler or Solo Mid). Thanks. What about the build, Most guides that I have checked suggest Vanguard/Blink Dagger.
Blink->BKB is your core. After that, you can clean up grabbing lategame utility stuff like Sheepstick for your team.
Vanguard can be OK if you feel you need it, but ideally, you can just get your Blink out faster. The sooner you have Blink, the sooner you start terrorizing the enemy team with Blink->Ulti ganks.
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On December 20 2011 05:40 haitike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 04:35 TheYango wrote:On December 20 2011 00:37 Numy wrote:On December 20 2011 00:23 TheYango wrote:On December 19 2011 23:54 haitike wrote:
is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking). Bat Rider is extremely strong and underplayed right now. Very surprising, seeing as he is almost permaban in DotA 1 competitive play. He's often played on the long lane, but he should be reasonable in any lane (putting him in the short lane is kind of a waste though, given how strong his laning is to begin with). He should be soloing mid. In most competitive matches I've seen him in, he was put sidelane solo. So I should Solo with him (Solo Lane with a jungler or Solo Mid). Thanks. What about the build, Most guides that I have checked suggest Vanguard/Blink Dagger.
Blink Dagger is core item. Batrider will get hit when using his ult and/or towerdiving, so vanguard is good on him.
I suggest to pick the rest of your items to fill your teams needs. So maybe arcane boots early, if you go ganking/pushing with teammates. Urn if no other of your team gets it.
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when playing as lich, if i've sat the carry decently so that he has decent farm, about when should i be leaving the lane? after i get my ult?
also, phase boots or power treads for lich?
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On December 20 2011 04:35 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 00:37 Numy wrote:On December 20 2011 00:23 TheYango wrote:On December 19 2011 23:54 haitike wrote:
is Batrider viable? In wich lane should he play?
Im new to the game (15 games played in MatchMaking). Bat Rider is extremely strong and underplayed right now. Very surprising, seeing as he is almost permaban in DotA 1 competitive play. He's often played on the long lane, but he should be reasonable in any lane (putting him in the short lane is kind of a waste though, given how strong his laning is to begin with). He should be soloing mid. In most competitive matches I've seen him in, he was put sidelane.
Odd, he's basically one of the best mid lane solos if not the best. With his early levels and farm he can dominate midgame. I don't really understand why you would put him side lane if he gets through the ban phase. The one or two times I've seen it happen the chinese always put him mid.
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On December 20 2011 08:11 zeehar wrote:
when playing as lich, if i've sat the carry decently so that he has decent farm, about when should i be leaving the lane? after i get my ult?
also, phase boots or power treads for lich?
phase in general, sometime treads
well you can leave as soon as he can farm safely. you can then go put wards, check runes, pull neutrals or go gank another lane. theres plenty of stuff you can do.
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On December 20 2011 08:11 zeehar wrote:
when playing as lich, if i've sat the carry decently so that he has decent farm, about when should i be leaving the lane? after i get my ult?
Your basic line of thinking should be "stay if he needs you, leave if he doesn't". This means that when you leave is highly situational--depending on what your lane opponents are doing, how far ahead you guys were in lane, what carry you have and how many of their core items before they can solo farm safely/sustainably, etc.
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On December 20 2011 08:58 Hirosh wrote:
well you can leave as soon as he can farm safely. you can then go put wards, check runes, pull neutrals or go gank another lane. theres plenty of stuff you can do.
yeah, the issue for me is knowing what to do at what times. especially farming during lulls in ganking, i never seem to be able to get gold fast enough to get meka at a reasonable time (15~20 mins, and even maybe that's late) let alone sceptre or sheepstick.
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On December 20 2011 09:40 zeehar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 08:58 Hirosh wrote:
well you can leave as soon as he can farm safely. you can then go put wards, check runes, pull neutrals or go gank another lane. theres plenty of stuff you can do. yeah, the issue for me is knowing what to do at what times. especially farming during lulls in ganking, i never seem to be able to get gold fast enough to get meka at a reasonable time (15~20 mins, and even maybe that's late) let alone sceptre or sheepstick.
You shouldn't plan around being able to get Scepter or Sheepstick reasonably if you're playing Lich as 4th or 5th position. They're more realistic if you're playing him in a solo lane (which is probably why they're listed in the recommended items).
As far as getting gold, remember that early game you can pick up support gold by stacking/pulling creeps, so long as you're not ditching your carry to get killed/harassed out of lane.
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On December 20 2011 09:48 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 09:40 zeehar wrote:On December 20 2011 08:58 Hirosh wrote:
well you can leave as soon as he can farm safely. you can then go put wards, check runes, pull neutrals or go gank another lane. theres plenty of stuff you can do. yeah, the issue for me is knowing what to do at what times. especially farming during lulls in ganking, i never seem to be able to get gold fast enough to get meka at a reasonable time (15~20 mins, and even maybe that's late) let alone sceptre or sheepstick. You shouldn't plan around being able to get Scepter or Sheepstick reasonably if you're playing Lich as 4th or 5th position.
that is a fucking relief. so i can usually just get meka and then just get obs/sentries all day?
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On December 20 2011 10:06 zeehar wrote:
that is a fucking relief. so i can usually just get meka and then just get obs/sentries all day?
You might not even be the best person to get Mekansm in some games--some caster solos will get it more quickly, and it might be better for them to have it.
If you're playing support and not getting a lot of farm, you generally should be expecting to only really finish 1-2 core items. Occasionally, you might get lucky with a good Lich ulti and pick up enough gold to finish something else. Keep track of the cheaper support items that your team hasn't picked up, and consider picking those up (e.g. Drums, Urn, Medallion, etc.).
Personally I usually end up getting Drums, because despite the fact that they're good on almost anybody, I never see anyone else getting them.
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alright. i'll keep drum in mind if there's another caster or WR who will be getting meka. thanks!
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Which point blank aoe spells continue to work after death? I think i've seen sandking's ult and leshrac's w do it, for example, but i'm not sure.
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