EPTMy question is how do you deal with Keepers nuke? He can keep a safe distance and hard harass/farm while preventing me from farming/supporting because the few Last hits I can get between blasts I end up spending on mana/health regen just to be able to stay in the lane longer but mostly Im way back at <50% health avoiding being killed. The fact that I am not killing creeps and he only nukes at the right time to last hit means he can tower hug when Im at high health and push hard when Im close to death because i can't get anywhere near him. What's the best way to deal with it?
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
My question is how do you deal with Keepers nuke? He can keep a safe distance and hard harass/farm while preventing me from farming/supporting because the few Last hits I can get between blasts I end up spending on mana/health regen just to be able to stay in the lane longer but mostly Im way back at <50% health avoiding being killed. The fact that I am not killing creeps and he only nukes at the right time to last hit means he can tower hug when Im at high health and push hard when Im close to death because i can't get anywhere near him. What's the best way to deal with it? | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
On September 21 2012 17:26 Qbek wrote: Dodge the nuke, it's really obvious that it's coming(warding side jungle on side lanes is a good idea against him). Or if you're close enough, just go fucking kill him, he can't do shit apart from the nuke tried that, and trust me I do my best to dodge them, when i can hear/see him cast but when he tower hugs and hides in the fog or in the trees and you can't see it till too late. What you're saying works in mid lane with a ward on their side of the river though, that much i figured out a bit too late though. ^^ | ||
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galtdunn
United States977 Posts
On September 21 2012 17:56 eu.exodus wrote: tried that, and trust me I do my best to dodge them, when i can hear/see him cast but when he tower hugs and hides in the fog or in the trees and you can't see it till too late. What you're saying works in mid lane with a ward on their side of the river though, that much i figured out a bit too late though. ^^ I think a ward is actually the best idea. For example, you're Radiant top lane against their Kotl. You place a ward either behind their tower (in between tiers 1 and 2 but much closer to 1) or in front of their tier 1, but high enough no the lane to give you vision of their tower and the horizontal part of the lane extending to the right (towards the dire base). | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
Or, just pick NA lol at him. | ||
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eu.exodus
South Africa1186 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
tower's attack range is 700 but has a true sight range of 900 | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8931 Posts
deny as much as you can and also if hes timing his waves to get last hits then as long as you dont feed kills you should come out ahead you dont need the farm as much as pa, who obviously isnt getting any if kotl takes all of them | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Tryxtira
Sweden572 Posts
On September 21 2012 17:22 eu.exodus wrote: hey guys. I played 2 games recently vs keeper of the light. Im still learning the so I random every game. The first game I randomed shadow fiend and went solo mid, the second game I randomed Omniknight and took long lane with lifestealer against KotL and PA. My question is how do you deal with Keepers nuke? He can keep a safe distance and hard harass/farm while preventing me from farming/supporting because the few Last hits I can get between blasts I end up spending on mana/health regen just to be able to stay in the lane longer but mostly Im way back at <50% health avoiding being killed. The fact that I am not killing creeps and he only nukes at the right time to last hit means he can tower hug when Im at high health and push hard when Im close to death because i can't get anywhere near him. What's the best way to deal with it? Play him yourself 3-4 games. Try to do the same thing your opponents do. That's the best way to learn the difficulties and problems with a hero or a playstyle!  | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On September 22 2012 14:20 Nevuk wrote: What do people use for recording fpvods/streaming these days? (I don't think my connection is good enough for me to stream, more curious about the other angle) I use Bandicam for recording (similar to fraps but much better imo) and XSplit for streaming. | ||
Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On September 22 2012 23:58 Teoita wrote: So i just got my dota 2 key and i'd like to start playing, but i've never ever ever ever played a single game in any moba before, ever. Is there any good chat channel/community/whatever place to start? I'd rather not jump into actual matches and start feeding like a boss.... Stickied Threads are your best buddies. Also the bots in this game are awesome. =) | ||
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Shunjal
United States482 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
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Shunjal
United States482 Posts
On September 23 2012 00:03 Teoita wrote: Thank you. So, i guess i create a few games vs only bots? Is it realistic to practice against them? Coming from sc2, playing vs the AI is only useful for the very basic things like hotkey usage. Under the Play tab, there is an option to play vs bots, with 4 other live people against 5 bots. And they are actually pretty good. Most of those, your human allies might leave game, but it's worth staying in to practice, learn items, hotkeys, etc. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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Ottoxlol
735 Posts
On September 23 2012 00:03 Shunjal wrote: What heroes is Veil of Discord useful on? Its an excellent dmg/gold item, it doesnt provide too much survivability so usually you pick it up with nukers if you don't need more of that. | ||
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