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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
July 11 2012 09:29 GMT
#2961
I heard this somewhere and just want to confirm it - if neutrals kill your creep (aka if you are pulling), and the enemy is in XP range, they get no XP at all correct?
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
bokeevboke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Singapore1674 Posts
July 11 2012 09:43 GMT
#2962
I am new to dota 2 (came from LoL).
I have no idea how to counter (fed) Ursa, he seems to be too strong, particularly among newbies. We tried to hold him with slows and stuns, but after we waste all of it our team just dies. I've already experienced 3 games where ursa singlehandly killed our team with the help of his support. Any suggestion?
Its grack
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
July 11 2012 09:52 GMT
#2963
On July 11 2012 18:43 bokeevboke wrote:
I am new to dota 2 (came from LoL).
I have no idea how to counter (fed) Ursa, he seems to be too strong, particularly among newbies. We tried to hold him with slows and stuns, but after we waste all of it our team just dies. I've already experienced 3 games where ursa singlehandly killed our team with the help of his support. Any suggestion?

Don't feed him. Once he's fat, it's gg. Ursa is scary in the sense that he can blink up and kill almost any hero in 1 second (literally), with PA coming a distant second. The rest require several seconds to inflict enough hits to kill, during which they can be stunned unless they have bkb. Deny ursa farm, make sure he doesn't go roshan, and place wards all over to keep tabs on him. Once he gets blink dagger, he can pick off enemy heroes at will. And he's freaking tanky too.
=Þ
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 10:10:10
July 11 2012 10:08 GMT
#2964
On July 11 2012 18:43 bokeevboke wrote:
I am new to dota 2 (came from LoL).
I have no idea how to counter (fed) Ursa, he seems to be too strong, particularly among newbies. We tried to hold him with slows and stuns, but after we waste all of it our team just dies. I've already experienced 3 games where ursa singlehandly killed our team with the help of his support. Any suggestion?

Ursa can be countered with a couple of simple items
ghostcepter is a pretty common items to buy against ursa. It prevents him from doing what he does best, dealing physical damage, as well as making your nukes more powerful.
Blademail: he basically hit himself with his awesome dps.
And alot of heroes (with slow or disable through bkb) counter him such as furion, who can just sprout him, and he can't do anything, bane with his ulti.
I hate all this singing
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
July 11 2012 10:29 GMT
#2965
How does ghost scepter allow your nukes to do more damage? Your mixing it with eb mate.
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 11 2012 10:30 GMT
#2966
Why are there no aura effects in DotA 2?
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
July 11 2012 10:47 GMT
#2967
On July 11 2012 19:29 Firebolt145 wrote:
How does ghost scepter allow your nukes to do more damage? Your mixing it with eb mate.

oh yeah, my bad. Actually I was thinking of pugna's decrepify when I said that :D
I hate all this singing
Kuzmorgo
Profile Joined May 2009
Hungary1058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 10:49:02
July 11 2012 10:48 GMT
#2968
On July 11 2012 19:08 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 18:43 bokeevboke wrote:
I am new to dota 2 (came from LoL).
I have no idea how to counter (fed) Ursa, he seems to be too strong, particularly among newbies. We tried to hold him with slows and stuns, but after we waste all of it our team just dies. I've already experienced 3 games where ursa singlehandly killed our team with the help of his support. Any suggestion?

Ursa can be countered with a couple of simple items
ghostcepter is a pretty common items to buy against ursa. It prevents him from doing what he does best, dealing physical damage, as well as making your nukes more powerful.
Blademail: he basically hit himself with his awesome dps.
And alot of heroes (with slow or disable through bkb) counter him such as furion, who can just sprout him, and he can't do anything, bane with his ulti.


You left out forcestaff. And blademail is only useful if you have more hp than him. And it is countered by bkb.
"No, whine not! Play, or play not! There is no whine."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
July 11 2012 10:51 GMT
#2969
On July 11 2012 19:30 [17]Purple wrote:
Why are there no aura effects in DotA 2?

Like the visual effects? Valve just hasn't added them in yet
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
July 11 2012 12:37 GMT
#2970
On July 11 2012 00:06 Heh_ wrote:
Any reliable way to get invites for a friend without paying 40 dollars?

Invites tend to go for 2 keys on every trade channel. That's much less than 40 dollars :p
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
July 11 2012 12:43 GMT
#2971
Would Omniknight be good to try for someone like who just played something like 20 games? I like the heals/supports concept. If so, what is a good newbie build and what suggestions can you give me?
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 13:39:24
July 11 2012 13:39 GMT
#2972
I have questions on how to lane as a melee/spiritbreaker....Which lane should I take and what should my partner be? In general I feel pretty tough to make money in between getting ganked and trying to protect myself etc...

EDIT: Sorry for double post I didn't notice it I was alt-tabbed from the game...
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 13:58:25
July 11 2012 13:53 GMT
#2973
On July 11 2012 21:43 Bleak wrote:
Would Omniknight be good to try for someone like who just played something like 20 games? I like the heals/supports concept. If so, what is a good newbie build and what suggestions can you give me?

Omni is my personal favorite hero and is very good at most stages of the game except for the early laning phase.
most people will tell you that omniknight is a quirky support, because he lacks a stun and his slow is mediocre.

Those people dont realize that omniknight is actually a hard carry. At the start of the game with omni always announce "SOLO MID OR FEED" preferably in allchat to let your allies and enemies alike know how badass you are. from there rush a radiance then s&y or heart. dont ever purchase wards, dont ever heal anyone but yourself (unless you can steal a kill), and get stats instead of repel.

+ Show Spoiler +
thats my troll build with omni, dont actually do that. Omni is actually very good for new players in my opinion, but you have to play very carefully in the laning phase until your heal/nuke gets to level 3 or so. once you have your ult you become a mid game teamfighting god, your heal/nuke will be at its most powerful early, and it is INCREDIBLY powerful when used properly. Find fights and heal your allies to turn the tide of battle (if you ever see two melee'ers duking it out, cast your heal on your ally and watch the health difference!). Omni should almost always be buying wards and probably other support items like mek, urn, and pipe (come to think of it pipe is probably redundant unless your up against some crazy nuke lineup). Unless your opponents are terrible you wont be winning games on your own, so just support your team as best you can with your heals, invulnerability ult, free bkb for anyone (dont miscast on creeps), and your aoe slow. its generally ok to leave just one or two points in repel so you can level your aura. Casting repel on your teams initiator can allow you to set up incredibly advantageous teamfights, or cast on a well fed carry give them all the time they need to tear apart the enemy team. Im sure I left a bunch of stuff out but the best way to learn is with experience.o yeah, soul ring and mana boots are good.

If someone who knows better then me would like to add something then please do.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
July 11 2012 13:59 GMT
#2974
Don't have anything to add except try to grab a rapier or two before the game ends if it lasts that long.
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Anacletus
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States733 Posts
July 11 2012 14:02 GMT
#2975
On July 11 2012 22:53 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 21:43 Bleak wrote:
Would Omniknight be good to try for someone like who just played something like 20 games? I like the heals/supports concept. If so, what is a good newbie build and what suggestions can you give me?

Omni is my personal favorite hero and is very good at most stages of the game except for the early laning phase.
most people will tell you that omniknight is a quirky support, because he lacks a stun and his slow is mediocre.

Those people dont realize that omniknight is actually a hard carry. At the start of the game with omni always announce "SOLO MID OR FEED" preferably in allchat to let your allies and enemies alike know how badass you are. from there rush a radiance then s&y or heart. dont ever purchase wards, dont ever heal anyone but yourself (unless you can steal a kill), and get stats instead of repel.

+ Show Spoiler +
thats my troll build with omni, dont actually do that. Omni is actually very good for new players in my opinion, but you have to play very carefully in the laning phase until your heal/nuke gets to level 3 or so. once you have your ult you become a mid game teamfighting god, your heal/nuke will be at its most powerful early, and it is INCREDIBLY powerful when used properly. Find fights and heal your allies to turn the tide of battle (if you ever see two melee'ers duking it out, cast your heal on your ally and watch the health difference!). Omni should almost always be buying wards and probably other support items like mek, urn, and pipe (come to think of it pipe is probably redundant unless your up against some crazy nuke lineup). Unless your opponents are terrible you wont be winning games on your own, so just support your team as best you can with your heals, invulnerability ult, free bkb for anyone (dont miscast on creeps), and your aoe slow. its generally ok to leave just one or two points in repel so you can level your aura. Casting repel on your teams initiator can allow you to set up incredibly advantageous teamfights, or cast on a well fed carry give them all the time they need to tear apart the enemy team. Im sure I left a bunch of stuff out but the best way to learn is with experience.o yeah, soul ring and mana boots are good.

If someone who knows better then me would like to add something then please do.


Always get one point in repel so you can save it to escape from teamfights. Protip: you teammates are only there to tank for you.
http://talk-to-stimey-please.1324083.n2.nabble.com/
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 11 2012 17:49 GMT
#2976
I've always had fun with the "nail to the ground" build, with Skadi, SnY, Basher, Shiva's, etc. It does have the small issue of not being exactly good, but that's half the fun of it.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
July 11 2012 19:04 GMT
#2977
On July 11 2012 06:00 chroniX wrote:
How do i listen to commentaries in replays? I chose the desire audio channel and nothing happens...


quoting myself cause i was still not able to make it work...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 11 2012 19:32 GMT
#2978
Realistically, I actually do think Omni should be playing a solo lane. He's very weak without levels or basic items, and he's a melee hero with no disables so he's not really a good babysitter either.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 19:45:43
July 11 2012 19:44 GMT
#2979
^I have actually taken omni to solo lanes with some success, but he has a very difficult time against many lanes, and even more if your opponents know how to play against something like that properly. He actually can escape ganks well if he has the mana to heal --> repel himself. If you can fix your mana problems quickly then you can hang in the lane well but against people who know what they're doing I find its almost impossible to get rolling.

I remember one game where i destroyed this BH mid, but it was mostly because he was a weak player.

who would you be comfortable laning against as solo omni, and would you ever actually put him mid yango?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 11 2012 19:44 GMT
#2980
Is Jugg's spin supposed to remove runes like DD, or is that a bug?
you gotta dance
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