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HKTPZ
Profile Joined May 2017
105 Posts
June 06 2017 20:44 GMT
#24701
How come Legion went from first phase pick to very rarely picked all of a sudden?
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3261 Posts
June 07 2017 03:51 GMT
#24702
On June 05 2017 16:42 sCuMBaG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2017 01:45 Archeon wrote:
On June 02 2017 19:46 sCuMBaG wrote:
On June 02 2017 18:02 solidbebe wrote:
As you said yourself, Euls has a big defensive component that squishy spellcasters love to use to escape the focus in a teamfight. It also has a ton of mana regen and the movement speed just synergizes really well with some heroes (like lina).

That said, I think atos is still an undervalued item that hasn't fully been discovered yet after the changes.


It's also a basic dispel - so quite helpful against deso etc.
Also (not much but) 50 damage.

Could you explain why it's helpful vs deso specifically? I mean I dodge some finishing autoattacks sometimes with euls, but deso applies every hit, so it's not like you purge it for long. Am I missing something?


I was menat to say diffu not deso

Ah ok, that makes more sense Thanks for clarifying.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11964 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-07 05:48:14
June 07 2017 05:44 GMT
#24703
Is the Kunkka quest silent running bugged? It shows the last damage you did in the top display. When trying to keep track and thinking you are done it still doesn't award more stars. Had it happen with silver edge, shadow blade or blink dagger. Or one of the invis items combined with blink. Says -1/1 on items needed (normal for quests).

How do I complete it? Just do more damage and it works after the game? Do 4.5k damage in one hit to enemy team using crit kunkka?
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
June 08 2017 08:54 GMT
#24704
Few wrong things I noticed were : the first part (get a dagger/sb) would not complete despite me having a SB. It did check though when I bought a dagger.

The counter would not increment much. Untill I stopped paying attention to it, and yeah late game It was "completed" (crit build). We lost the game anyway.

So maybe you're correct in your assumption, it's a one hit thing.


The other weird quest for me is "Rough Water", where you're asked to "Get a Kill or Assist after using X Mark the Spot on enemy heroes 4/8/12 times". Only got 4 and I'm unclear how : do I have to X them back and then there's a small window to kill them, or do they have to die being Xd?
Resistance ain't futile
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
June 08 2017 12:46 GMT
#24705
there should be a window, but i don't think it's very long, if the other 'get x after y' quests are anything to go by
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
June 08 2017 16:10 GMT
#24706
I'm really not sure, if there is a window is seems very small. I'll test it further tonight.
Resistance ain't futile
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-08 21:25:30
June 08 2017 21:16 GMT
#24707
On June 07 2017 14:44 Yurie wrote:
Is the Kunkka quest silent running bugged? It shows the last damage you did in the top display. When trying to keep track and thinking you are done it still doesn't award more stars. Had it happen with silver edge, shadow blade or blink dagger. Or one of the invis items combined with blink. Says -1/1 on items needed (normal for quests).

How do I complete it? Just do more damage and it works after the game? Do 4.5k damage in one hit to enemy team using crit kunkka?


Ok so I just 3 starred it.

The counters were bugged all game long, showing random numbers. I bought a shadow blade and it didn't register whatsoever (0/1). The damage numbers were bogus. Like 500 dmg after a phase + armlet + shadowblade + daedalus strike on 4.

I ended up buying a blink dagger because none of that was making sense, but their throne exploded right the next second - couldn't use it.

To my surprise though, I got 3 stars.

[image loading]

So yeah :

1°) the display seems totally bugged to me
2°) still unsure what is asked for (1 hit OR the total amount of damage done during game) - it was a rather quick game, only had phase / armlet / SB / daedalus, so I would lean toward the latter, as I doubt I did 4.5k to heroes in 1 hit, seeing that I did 16,7k total.
Resistance ain't futile
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7057 Posts
June 09 2017 02:16 GMT
#24708
it sounds like the quest is coded to check the total amount of damage done during the game after using blink/sb but the display only displays the biggest single hit after using those items
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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
June 12 2017 05:57 GMT
#24709
Is there anything differently I could have done this game? I felt like my linkens purchase was a mistake but I felt like I had no answers at the time with my Tinker. https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3242615190
Getting too old for this..
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
June 12 2017 09:17 GMT
#24710
would have bought aghs that game, the linkens really doesnt do much. you have some pretty decent frontliners in the form of sb, medusa and legion so the enemy team should have trouble getting to you. it looks like you just didnt play well. they have no tinker hunters so im not sure how you struggled to get farm that game.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-12 09:44:05
June 12 2017 09:32 GMT
#24711
There is pretty much just one answer: have more farm. Tinker is one of the best farmers in the game, so 390GPM is very low.



Try to look at how the pros do it and emulate their playstyle. Recognize some of the benchmarks they reach: if you're farming well you should be sitting somewhere between 400-500 gpm at the 20 minute mark. Going up to 600-700 in the lategame.

In that game you can see miracle loses quite hard and he is not sitting at the amount of farm he would want to be, yet he still has two major items (aghs and dagon) more than you at the 40 minute mark.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3261 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-17 13:31:36
June 17 2017 13:30 GMT
#24712
Idk, imho the "learning from the pros"-thing is a bit overrated. The discrepancy between Miracle and your average player is just too big. If you try to copy what they do you'll straight up feed, because a lot of the skills that they have aren't part of the skillset of a 2k player, but are necessary for their success. Understanding Miracle's thought process is quite tough too for a player who plays in an entirely different meta and the sheer amount of things Miracle does differently are likely to overwhelm a much worse player.

Imho the faster way is to always look at players who are slightly better. If you are 2k, look at 3k players, if you are 3k look at 4k etc. It's easier to recognize what they are doing and why they slightly better and therefore easier to work at one part of your skillset at a time.
low gravity, yes-yes!
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 17 2017 13:54 GMT
#24713
You make a good point. The essence is that you need to look at players better than you and emulate their playstyle (not just superficially, also try to figure why they do something differently). If I get trashed by someone in a pub Ill watch the replay and see how they played, because even though they might only be marginally better than me (compared to a pro), theres still something I can learn from them.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
June 18 2017 12:49 GMT
#24714
Apologies if I'm completely missing something or am unaware about an update or if this is the wrong place to post this question.

I just tried looking at my builds on the main dota 2 website, but I can't edit them as the talent tree section - and the ability to set build choices for talents at certain levels - is gone. WTF?

P.S. - Why why why does dota refuse to bring back the ability to edit builds in the dota client?!?!
XBox Gamertag/Steam Name: The Binary Son. Hit me up if you want to play! Also on Twitter: www.twitter.com/TheBinarySon
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11964 Posts
June 18 2017 17:09 GMT
#24715
On June 18 2017 21:49 The Binary Son wrote:
Apologies if I'm completely missing something or am unaware about an update or if this is the wrong place to post this question.

I just tried looking at my builds on the main dota 2 website, but I can't edit them as the talent tree section - and the ability to set build choices for talents at certain levels - is gone. WTF?

P.S. - Why why why does dota refuse to bring back the ability to edit builds in the dota client?!?!


Would love if they brought it back. Have 20 builds in game I can't delete without doing some offline/online mode manipulation of files.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
June 19 2017 15:51 GMT
#24716
If I get level 165, wich grants me double tresures in the campaign, do I get the treasures retroactively?
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 19 2017 20:25 GMT
#24717
No you dont.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
June 21 2017 11:21 GMT
#24718
Looking to finish the Path of the Rising Tide quests (Slardar set). Don't care about alt set, 1 star is fine My 2 options for the last one is either the battle cup or the auras. Battle cup is mostly out of question (don't get to play when it's on) so that leaves me the auras. More precisely, if I'm looking for 1 star: "Be simultaneously affected by 6 auras present on your team."
Any way I can complete that 100% on my own? What would be good heroes / builds for pub games?
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-21 11:26:11
June 21 2017 11:26 GMT
#24719
On June 21 2017 20:21 Merany wrote:
Looking to finish the Path of the Rising Tide quests (Slardar set). Don't care about alt set, 1 star is fine My 2 options for the last one is either the battle cup or the auras. Battle cup is mostly out of question (don't get to play when it's on) so that leaves me the auras. More precisely, if I'm looking for 1 star: "Be simultaneously affected by 6 auras present on your team."
Any way I can complete that 100% on my own? What would be good heroes / builds for pub games?

Make aquila, dominator (dominator extra good if you dominate aura creep), drums, vlads, basilius, mekansm, headress, assault, pick aura heroes (venge, luna, drow, wk)
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11964 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-21 17:04:34
June 21 2017 17:03 GMT
#24720
On June 21 2017 20:26 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2017 20:21 Merany wrote:
Looking to finish the Path of the Rising Tide quests (Slardar set). Don't care about alt set, 1 star is fine My 2 options for the last one is either the battle cup or the auras. Battle cup is mostly out of question (don't get to play when it's on) so that leaves me the auras. More precisely, if I'm looking for 1 star: "Be simultaneously affected by 6 auras present on your team."
Any way I can complete that 100% on my own? What would be good heroes / builds for pub games?

Make aquila, dominator (dominator extra good if you dominate aura creep), drums, vlads, basilius, mekansm, headress, assault, pick aura heroes (venge, luna, drow, wk)


Better idea is to pick Chen. Build Dominator and you are done with 6 at level 7 assuming you have decent creeps. Else the start of the mek or vladimir along with the creep auras would do it.

If it is a very long game you can get to 11 auras from just yourself on chen. Then I assume quickly swapping an item while the aura lingers gets you to 12.
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