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justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
April 24 2012 11:34 GMT
#2421
Anyone play games and then when you go look for them later on they aren't anywhere? Just played a hilarious game and was hoping I could watch the replay. But, it's gone!
Never make a hydralisk.
Maand
Profile Joined April 2010
326 Posts
April 24 2012 19:35 GMT
#2422
Tranquil Boots vs Arcane Boots on Crystal Maiden?

I wonder if you should go for Tranquil's when your team has enough Arcane's. I assume that you go primarily Arcane for the team.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 24 2012 19:38 GMT
#2423
On April 25 2012 04:35 Maand wrote:
Tranquil Boots vs Arcane Boots on Crystal Maiden?

I wonder if you should go for Tranquil's when your team has enough Arcane's. I assume that you go primarily Arcane for the team.

I'd suggeest phases, you're slow as shit so it will help with both chasing and escaping, And you don't need what the other boots give you.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
April 24 2012 19:39 GMT
#2424
I always go phase. Helps me land disables and the extra attack damage is always nice for farming wards up.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 24 2012 19:54 GMT
#2425
As others have said, Phases are generally the best choice.

You get Arcanes if your team absolutely needs one and it's not really suitable for someone else to get it. You get Tranquil if you have a really rough early game, and absolutely need to get your upgraded boots while moving on to other items.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:27:25
April 25 2012 00:24 GMT
#2426
How long are Q times generally if you want to play random draft?

Forty Minutes ^_^
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The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
April 25 2012 03:02 GMT
#2427
I go no boots for a while (depends on game situation). Usually get HP in the form of bracers/urn or buying wards because often lacking in money with CM. Arcane is definitely something you shouldn't get often on CM as it is 1k gold (very hard to come buy) and gives no survivability. If I fill up item slots with say a few bracers, wand, wards and tp scroll, then I might upgrade to phase or str treads (more hp).
VioletWave
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 04:06:54
April 25 2012 04:06 GMT
#2428
I recently received 4 extra copies but there are more than 4 friends who want to play dota2, is there a date (or cycle) that valve gives a extra copies to players?
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
April 25 2012 06:13 GMT
#2429
i think people forget that tranquil boots have +80 move speed. thats alot more then any boots but bots, and they are cheap.

Personaly i like them for the stats moreso then the active heal.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
April 25 2012 06:18 GMT
#2430
On the topic of tranquil boots:

Are they taken as core for any heroes? Do top level teams ever grab them? I sometimes take them on support heroes, but I'm often thinking that phase boots could work better.
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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
April 25 2012 06:24 GMT
#2431
On April 25 2012 15:18 EchelonTee wrote:
On the topic of tranquil boots:

Are they taken as core for any heroes? Do top level teams ever grab them? I sometimes take them on support heroes, but I'm often thinking that phase boots could work better.



love them for axe. I don't think it's optimal tho.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 25 2012 06:41 GMT
#2432
On April 25 2012 15:18 EchelonTee wrote:
On the topic of tranquil boots:

Are they taken as core for any heroes? Do top level teams ever grab them? I sometimes take them on support heroes, but I'm often thinking that phase boots could work better.

farmers regen. dissemble works well for some items such as building into vlads
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 25 2012 06:51 GMT
#2433
pretty good on ursa cus it breaks into boots + vlads anyway and the movespeed is nice for killing people early on
pretty good on bat cus it lets you skip roh and the bonus movespeed is nice
other than that it lets you skip vanguard on radi heroes (tranquil + vit booster > radi > heart) like spec, doom, phantom lancer
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 25 2012 07:06 GMT
#2434
On April 25 2012 15:51 Dead9 wrote:
other than that it lets you skip vanguard on radi heroes (tranquil + vit booster > radi > heart) like spec, doom, phantom lancer

Doom doesn't really need Tranquils to skip Vanguard. Hood is pretty good for him if you want something to turn your RoH into. And he needs the attack speed from treads pretty badly compared to Spec or Lancer (awful agility gain and not an illusion hero).
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 25 2012 09:36 GMT
#2435
on doom phases are generally more useful than treads, they let you get in range to cast things and help a lot with hitting things as a melee hero
tranquil is just a nice alternative for when you're having a tough early game or you want the radi really early
most of his damage comes from his spells/radiance anyway
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
April 25 2012 10:05 GMT
#2436
I get Tranquil boots for my Jakiro. They are cheap and the +80ms is amazing earlygame. Later I rip them apart in order to make AB and mek/pipe
AoD
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
April 25 2012 10:13 GMT
#2437
I've used tranquil on omni when going for more dps build over support. It was actually quite hilarious, more of a joke build. It actually worked out surprisingly well. It worked well early in the game, and that movement speed is sexy. Of course, I realize that the other boots are better. But it is one of those items that hardly gets used (although rightly so to a degree), it just is entertaining to use.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
April 25 2012 10:25 GMT
#2438
how do you jungle as engima?

starting items, creep camp order, skill build?

thank you!
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
April 25 2012 11:22 GMT
#2439
starting items:
depends on if u need to cover support items at first
basi+2 mana pots is generally preferred for the jungle and makes jungling super easy
sobi+a bunch of mana pots works okay too if you don't plan on getting basi
if you need to support
courier+sobi+mana pots
wards+sobi+mana pots

skill build:
wqwqqrqww if you plan on killing stuff early on (do this most of the time)
wqwqwrwqq if you plan on pushing stuff early on

jungling:
theres a lot of variation, for example u can help out your laner by denying lane creeps and using them to jungle (as they walk toward the first tower). slows down jungling a bit but is pretty helpful for your laner

there's a couple ways to jungle but i think this is the fastest and least spawn-reliant at the beginning
@30s kill ez camp
use your 6 eidolons to put out a lot of damage on the nearest hard camp (on the unconvertable creep)
@1:05 kill the hard camp
use your 6 eidolons to kill the ez camp
@1:40 kill hard camp radi, med camp dire
use your 6 eidolons to kill/hurt the camp again (don't block) or move on to another camp
The Great Taste
Profile Joined January 2012
389 Posts
April 25 2012 12:11 GMT
#2440
To expand on above, generally you should go soul ring and not arcane boots because soul ring is about half price and because its cheaper you dont have to keep on buying clarities.

After that you should probably grab boots and the two most common paths from here are:

- Str treads (If you wish to get a fast blink, I'd suggest grabbing str treads or at least a bracer so you don't blink in and die)
- Mekansm

I saw someone suggest tranquil boots for ursa before and that reminded me I planned to try that out. Actually might not be a bad item for enigma as well considering soul ring eats your hp, because later you can dissamble the boots into Mek/Pipe and Basillius (even a late basillius wouldn't be a bad idea if you don't already have one).
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