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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
http://www.jist.tv/watch.php?v=Spxft3Zg22piKyvC It may be hard to see at first, but watch for Windranger's shackleshot. I'm not exactly sure how I dodged it, Dive isn't a disjoint and shackle's travel speed (1650) is much higher than the dive (1000). In the 1/2 second or so of the dive it should have gained 325 units on me and presumably stunned me. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
i wud be complaining if i didnt know 3k is shit + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6Zmsy4n.jpg) | ||
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United States7542 Posts
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FFGenerations
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
i always go here to say something general | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Please respect that. | ||
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Baggage
Hong Kong593 Posts
On June 02 2016 23:16 Logo wrote: Anyone know why this worked out: http://www.jist.tv/watch.php?v=Spxft3Zg22piKyvC It may be hard to see at first, but watch for Windranger's shackleshot. I'm not exactly sure how I dodged it, Dive isn't a disjoint and shackle's travel speed (1650) is much higher than the dive (1000). In the 1/2 second or so of the dive it should have gained 325 units on me and presumably stunned me. Can you give the replay id? It's hard to get a very good look from the recording, but my preliminary guess is that the shackle doesn't latch because there's really no unit/tree behind you to latch to. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On June 03 2016 09:56 Baggage wrote: Can you give the replay id? It's hard to get a very good look from the recording, but my preliminary guess is that the shackle doesn't latch because there's really no unit/tree behind you to latch to. The not "latching" isn't the issue. Even if there isn't a tree/unit for it to latch to, it still normally does a small ministun, which should have stopped this Dive -> Egg combo. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
It either doesn't hit you until you're in nova (in which case the replay is really out of whack because the sprite reaches you around the start of dive), or it plain disappears for no reason. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
40:13 is the listed start of the time of the teamfight. Even slowed down & in game it looks just as weird, but maybe someone will see something I didn't. | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Replay unavailable fyi. | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
On June 03 2016 14:02 Belisarius wrote: Shackle should be faster than dive though, by quite a bit. Replay unavailable fyi. there's a button to download it on the YASP page i'm checking it now | ||
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Quochobao
United States350 Posts
I'm asking because I've seen Dark Seer blink ahead in pro games and vac wall but then there's not much after that. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
dunno what game youre referencing but it was probably just a case of miscommunication within the team or something. a vac wall combo is not only useless without any followup but also extremely costly because of the downtime, so it was most likely a mistake from that team where they failed to coordinate their fight properly | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
On June 03 2016 13:12 tehh4ck3r wrote: i think what happened is that you started dive an instant before it hit, the projectile kept following you (since dive doesn't disjoint), since you egged during dive the projectile landed on the egg and did nothing this is what happened. screenshot taken during the dive: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/75k9Cff.jpg) the thing i circled is the shackleshot projectile, it never latches because it never catches up to phoenix before he casts egg | ||
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Quochobao
United States350 Posts
On June 03 2016 14:13 evilfatsh1t wrote: vac wall is pretty shit without followup unless you have an aghs and the opponents have some hard hitters. dunno what game youre referencing but it was probably just a case of miscommunication within the team or something. a vac wall combo is not only useless without any followup but also extremely costly because of the downtime, so it was most likely a mistake from that team where they failed to coordinate their fight properly So right now in Manila major, wings vs dc, wings has dark seer, but the rest is beast master, slark, brew, and (the bird hero that summons two other birds as ulti). There doesn't seem to be any follow up AOE there? | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
On June 03 2016 14:21 Quochobao wrote: So right now in Manila major, wings vs dc, wings has dark seer, but the rest is beast master, slark, brew, and (the bird hero that summons two other birds as ulti). There doesn't seem to be any follow up AOE there? they don't have heavy AoE but getting the brewmaster clap on multiple heroes (300 damage + 55% move and attack speed slow) can be big also it can combo into visage's familiar stun (see  here and here)you could also get a beasmaster roar onto one of the vacuumed heroes to get even more disable on one target + knockback on all the other targets in the AoE | ||
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