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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 15 2015 06:07 GMT
#22921
Not really strategy, but is there anyway to create custom builds in Reborn? All my custom builds are gone, so it's annoying when I wanna buy items :S
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 15 2015 06:35 GMT
#22922
Can you not just use the checkbox above the build in the shop and then make a scratch sheet (or use the website builder)? I haven't tested yet.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 15 2015 06:55 GMT
#22923
Technically in-game custom recommended items haven't been supported since steam guides were added.

I just make a guide and subscribe to myself.
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
September 15 2015 12:26 GMT
#22924
On September 15 2015 15:07 DucK- wrote:
Not really strategy, but is there anyway to create custom builds in Reborn? All my custom builds are gone, so it's annoying when I wanna buy items :S

http://www.dota2.com/workshop/builds
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 15 2015 15:26 GMT
#22925
On September 15 2015 21:26 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 15:07 DucK- wrote:
Not really strategy, but is there anyway to create custom builds in Reborn? All my custom builds are gone, so it's annoying when I wanna buy items :S

http://www.dota2.com/workshop/builds


Thanks!
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
September 15 2015 23:43 GMT
#22926
There is a 143-1 Bloodseeker player on the Dotabuff leaderboards, he buys Octarine Core as a last item fairly often and I haven't been able to figure out why. Does it make you lifesteal off rage's bonus damage or something?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
September 16 2015 00:00 GMT
#22927
On September 16 2015 08:43 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
There is a 143-1 Bloodseeker player on the Dotabuff leaderboards, he buys Octarine Core as a last item fairly often and I haven't been able to figure out why. Does it make you lifesteal off rage's bonus damage or something?

no i dont think it does that

i imagine it's for the cooldown on the silence and amp (and maybe rupture but i dont think you fight more frequently than rupture cd anyway)

also he probably abuses the "turn off expose public match data in losing games" trick to get a record that good
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
September 16 2015 08:33 GMT
#22928
ya pretty sure he abuses
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
September 16 2015 12:22 GMT
#22929
Ah yes, I looked up his profile in game and there was a bunch of lossses indeed. I didn't know about that abuse so thanks for pointing that out.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 03:18:26
September 17 2015 03:17 GMT
#22930
anyone know the exact spot to stand in mid lane before creeps start to push creeps to the right?
not sure if my graphics settings changed or reborn looks a little different, but the lines in source 1 have disappeared in source 2 and i cant figure out where the hell the spot is

nvm. literally 5 seconds after i posted this it worked
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 17 2015 03:25 GMT
#22931
On September 17 2015 12:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
anyone know the exact spot to stand in mid lane before creeps start to push creeps to the right?
not sure if my graphics settings changed or reborn looks a little different, but the lines in source 1 have disappeared in source 2 and i cant figure out where the hell the spot is

nvm. literally 5 seconds after i posted this it worked

Can you post a screenshot of where to stand? I couldn't work it out with the new tiles ;_;
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8788 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 03:44:31
September 17 2015 03:43 GMT
#22932
[image loading]

http://i.imgur.com/mQOp8Qn.jpg?1
unsaeglich
Profile Joined June 2015
260 Posts
September 17 2015 14:18 GMT
#22933
why does rupture cancel regeneration runes?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 17 2015 14:26 GMT
#22934
On September 17 2015 23:18 unsaeglich wrote:
why does rupture cancel regeneration runes?

They changed it from HP removal to pure dmg piercing BKB during the big dmg type update.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
unsaeglich
Profile Joined June 2015
260 Posts
September 17 2015 14:29 GMT
#22935
but I can bottle through it?
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 15:41:36
September 17 2015 14:54 GMT
#22936
On September 17 2015 23:29 unsaeglich wrote:
but I can bottle through it?

It's not HP removal, it's an actual damage instance, so if you move faster than 100ms (which you most often do, since minimum is capped at 100), you take enough damage while moving to cancel the bottle regen.
Disclaimer: didn't test the edge case, info based on dota2pedia.


You can bottle through it if Rupture is lv1 and you move slower than ~350ms. Lv2 makes it impossible to bottle for CM without boots.
Not sure why it works that way. Since Rupture's damage is pure, deals 20%/40%/60% of distance taken every 0.25 seconds and bottle is disrupted if you take 20 damage before reductions, on paper you should be able to move as fast as 400/200/133.3ms and still be able to bottle, so I must be missing something here.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
September 17 2015 15:33 GMT
#22937
rupture actually deals 0 dmg periodically during its duration, even if u dont move. this has implications for stuff like kotl recall, but bottle has a minimum dmg threshold of 20. so you should be able to bottle while ur ruptured if ur standing still
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2623 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 20:46:29
September 17 2015 20:45 GMT
#22938
I did some testing. It's got something to do with referencing where you were X seconds ago with bottle, as opposed to just whether or not Rupture is dealing damage. You can run in circles around a point within some short distance of you and bottle through it, but if you try bottle while running in a straight line at anything above 360ish for rank 1 rupture, it insta cancels the bottle.

Not sure what the fuck is going on mechanically to make that happen, but that's what happens. Also cool is that this mechanic doesn't work for blink dagger, which is cooldowned the moment you take damage regardless.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-17 20:53:47
September 17 2015 20:53 GMT
#22939
Well when you run in a circle, you're not running a straight line between every Rupture damage check, so your apparent MS relative to rupture will be less than your actual MS, especially since turning takes time.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28095 Posts
September 18 2015 18:31 GMT
#22940
On September 16 2015 09:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 08:43 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
There is a 143-1 Bloodseeker player on the Dotabuff leaderboards, he buys Octarine Core as a last item fairly often and I haven't been able to figure out why. Does it make you lifesteal off rage's bonus damage or something?

no i dont think it does that

i imagine it's for the cooldown on the silence and amp (and maybe rupture but i dont think you fight more frequently than rupture cd anyway)

also he probably abuses the "turn off expose public match data in losing games" trick to get a record that good

I thought they fixed that? Once you play one game doesn't it auto update the rest of your matches now?
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