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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 19:16:52
August 24 2015 19:16 GMT
#22781
I'm unaware of any reason why it wouldn't work. Obviously make sure your hero is outside the spawnbox.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 24 2015 19:52 GMT
#22782
The fact that Torrent is a slow will fuck with the timing a bit, but otherwise it should be possible.
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Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
August 24 2015 20:05 GMT
#22783
On August 25 2015 04:52 TheYango wrote:
The fact that Torrent is a slow will fuck with the timing a bit, but otherwise it should be possible.


That shouldn't matter, IIRC you stack by casting torrent at 57.5 and the torrent lifts the creeps above the spawn box.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 20:37:54
August 24 2015 20:30 GMT
#22784
If spawnboxes actually have a vertical dimension my mind will be blown.

[edit] Oh. My god.

Just tested, they actually do. That's fucking hilarious. The window with torrent is goddamn tiny (like 0.3s) but it's actually possible.
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
August 24 2015 20:51 GMT
#22785
I think you can also do it with invoker tornado, but I don't play invoker so I don't remember for sure.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 24 2015 22:55 GMT
#22786
Oh right, now I remember seeing that on the KBL, lol.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 25 2015 01:19 GMT
#22787
Reminds of when in hon there was a miss chance while the target was getting impaled by the lion equivalent because they were technically on higher elevation.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 25 2015 13:23 GMT
#22788
On August 25 2015 05:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
If spawnboxes actually have a vertical dimension my mind will be blown.

[edit] Oh. My god.

Just tested, they actually do. That's fucking hilarious. The window with torrent is goddamn tiny (like 0.3s) but it's actually possible.


from reading a reddit post it seems like you should face away from the spawn, cast torrent at xx:57 second mark exactly.
kunkka will turn first, which takes 0.16 seconds, and somehow the timing works out just right
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
August 25 2015 13:35 GMT
#22789
On August 25 2015 22:23 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 05:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
If spawnboxes actually have a vertical dimension my mind will be blown.

[edit] Oh. My god.

Just tested, they actually do. That's fucking hilarious. The window with torrent is goddamn tiny (like 0.3s) but it's actually possible.


from reading a reddit post it seems like you should face away from the spawn, cast torrent at xx:57 second mark exactly.
kunkka will turn first, which takes 0.16 seconds, and somehow the timing works out just right


remember, kunkka does not need to be facing the direction of the torrent anymore
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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
August 28 2015 17:02 GMT
#22790
Can you control where Omnislash goes via right-clicking or attack-click or any other mechanic to prevent the omni from running you way off target?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2015 17:04 GMT
#22791
blink dagger works I believe, although obviously it isn't as much control as you might like.
AFAIK that's the only even slightly feasible option.
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
August 28 2015 17:06 GMT
#22792
On August 29 2015 02:02 BoZiffer wrote:
Can you control where Omnislash goes via right-clicking or attack-click or any other mechanic to prevent the omni from running you way off target?


You can at least Blink Dagger during Omnislash and direct it a bit like that but I'm not aware of anything else.
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
August 28 2015 20:03 GMT
#22793
Eul's on a target you don't want to jump to, or a well timed Force Staff on your next target. Still not worth it though.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 28 2015 20:05 GMT
#22794
Omni still hits euls'd targets (they don't take damage but you can still jump on them)

And I don't think you can force staff yourself (plus you face a random direction) so your best hope is to force staff an enemy to you, which is simply not worth lol.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 28 2015 21:05 GMT
#22795
On August 25 2015 22:35 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 22:23 evanthebouncy! wrote:
On August 25 2015 05:30 Fleetfeet wrote:
If spawnboxes actually have a vertical dimension my mind will be blown.

[edit] Oh. My god.

Just tested, they actually do. That's fucking hilarious. The window with torrent is goddamn tiny (like 0.3s) but it's actually possible.


from reading a reddit post it seems like you should face away from the spawn, cast torrent at xx:57 second mark exactly.
kunkka will turn first, which takes 0.16 seconds, and somehow the timing works out just right


remember, kunkka does not need to be facing the direction of the torrent anymore

yep, i just do it a little after 0:57 and it works like 90% of the time
:)
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
August 28 2015 21:59 GMT
#22796
On August 29 2015 05:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
Omni still hits euls'd targets (they don't take damage but you can still jump on them)

!!!
My bad.


And I don't think you can force staff yourself (plus you face a random direction) so your best hope is to force staff an enemy to you, which is simply not worth lol.


You can force staff an enemy away to not hit them, or force staff the enemy hero you're on to try to transfer to another enemy.
HUMMAN
Profile Joined July 2015
Turkey61 Posts
August 29 2015 16:22 GMT
#22797
Is it wise to rush divine rapier in certain circumstances? Like when you have a defensive support and a good farm, can it be better to get divine as first major item on divine carries?
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Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
August 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#22798
On August 30 2015 01:22 HUMMAN wrote:
Is it wise to rush divine rapier in certain circumstances? Like when you have a defensive support and a good farm, can it be better to get divine as first major item on divine carries?

i would guess no
cause even with good farm you want some kind of item to make you tanky before you get rapier so that you don't risk feeding it away
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-29 17:34:45
August 29 2015 17:34 GMT
#22799
You can do it on Gyro for laughs, but it's not the right choice.

If you have "good farm" on a carry, that usually means you shouldn't be taking unnecessary risks, because with a good start, your farm speed naturally increases and you get more ahead unless you feed away that advantage. Buying a Rapier is the riskiest possible thing you can do.
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
August 29 2015 17:34 GMT
#22800
On August 30 2015 01:22 HUMMAN wrote:
Is it wise to rush divine rapier in certain circumstances? Like when you have a defensive support and a good farm, can it be better to get divine as first major item on divine carries?

I would say that these need to be some very, very, ,......, very special circumstances, certainly you would also need to factor in the enemy lineup at the very least. If we keep with the theme of this thread, then the simple answer would be "no".
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