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I find that in order to get that kind of farm I need the safelane to be empty from min8 or so onwards, can't really keep an illusion alive to lasthit with where there is an enemy hero in the lane, though maybe that's just a skill issue on my part. And if my teammates are successfully defending the jungle and the safelane is empty I can get farm like that on luna or am or pl as well and it feels like they use that farm just as well, I guess I just haven't figured out what this hero gets me that any of those three don't.
And the fact that he lacks any sort of front loaded burst makes it feel like just straight bkb isn't nearly as effective on him as on luna or gyro or sf. Meaning that for those cases where farming for 25 min isn't an option there aren't really any good item choices.
I mean since everyone seems to agree that the hero is imbalanced as fuck I guess I am just wrong but yeah.
its probably just practice. with 2-3 pts in illusion early they last hit for around 40 dmg depending on where you are at stat wise, which is like last hitting at lv 1. And you shouldn't be alone in the safelane, you should have your support zoning and taking experience, making it difficult for the enemy to figure out your position or contest last hits.
this hero accelerates way faster than luna, pl, or am and is most comparable to naga. what tb gives you instead is a crazy long attack range, more or less the best illusions in game, and a laning presence stronger than any of the carries you mentioned. hes an absolute beast in the laning phase, unlike AM or pl
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It's kinda true that this hero doesn't take skill and is boring to watch....
Alteast not as much skill as it takes to play AM/Morph
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On April 22 2014 20:11 ChunderBoy wrote:
It's kinda true that this hero doesn't take skill and is boring to watch....
Alteast not as much skill as it takes to play AM/Morph
Man you havent been playing much games recently 
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On April 22 2014 20:11 ChunderBoy wrote:
It's kinda true that this hero doesn't take skill and is boring to watch....
Alteast not as much skill as it takes to play AM/Morph
Ya. hes also a lot less interesting to play against compared to am or morph
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Anyways i think a patch is expected VERY soon , and along with it a few nerfs perhaps?
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probably a nerf on reflection
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I've been seeing a lot of posts here how reflection is OP.
I've played a lot of terrorblade last February and March, doing this build order:
E-Q-E-W-E-R-E-W-W-W-R-Q-Q-Q-U-R
So, what is the current cookie cutter skill build order right now? Just curious, thanks.
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On April 23 2014 11:36 Discarder wrote:
So, what is the current cookie cutter skill build order right now? Just curious, thanks.
1-1-2-0 into 1-4-2-1 if you can farm with illusions in lane or 1-1-4-1 if you can get kills/towers. Delay ult whenever between 6~10 for more levels on CI if you can get away with it.
lvl 1 skill depends on opponent, Meta if contested lane, most of the time just lvl 1 Reflection to trade hits favorably
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Normally skip extra levels on Reflection until post lvl 16, and only max it when there's a good melee carry/aura to target (free Radiance/Vlads/AC/etc with <50% uptime)
On the patch topic, I expect Reflection to be nerfed so it's not such a 1 point wonder skill and force you to actually max it (Naix Open Wounds treatment)
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slow for 5 seconds definitely is pretty op at level 1
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On April 23 2014 05:46 Erasme wrote:
probably a nerf on reflection
I think a nerf on some base stats would be nice too. That or a meta change.
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Make reflection scale, change BAT to 1.7
Illusion heroes dont deserve good BATs.
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On April 22 2014 20:11 ChunderBoy wrote:
It's kinda true that this hero doesn't take skill and is boring to watch....
Alteast not as much skill as it takes to play AM/Morph
Meh, AM doesn't take that much either.
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On April 24 2014 02:50 Karpfen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2014 20:11 ChunderBoy wrote:
It's kinda true that this hero doesn't take skill and is boring to watch....
Alteast not as much skill as it takes to play AM/Morph Meh, AM doesn't take that much either.
he's the least forgiving by far.
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On April 24 2014 02:20 ChunderBoy wrote:
Make reflection scale, change BAT to 1.7
Illusion heroes dont deserve good BATs.
Dare to elaborate why they don't :D? Especially since 1.5 BAT is overall ~13% dps increase over 1.7 BAT, not exactly great.
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Reflection should definitely scald. Rank 1 is so strong. Still don't understand why people max it first over stats.
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I think his base armor and hp regen could be nerfed too. Buy a PMS + 8 armor + 2.5 regen is dumb in lane.
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On April 24 2014 04:01 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 02:20 ChunderBoy wrote:
Make reflection scale, change BAT to 1.7
Illusion heroes dont deserve good BATs. Dare to elaborate why they don't :D? Especially since 1.5 BAT is overall ~13% dps increase over 1.7 BAT, not exactly great.
Dude, 13% is a bit of a huge difference lol
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I lost a game with this hero yesterday.
Should I kill myself.
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On April 24 2014 21:37 ch33psh33p wrote:
I lost a game with this hero yesterday.
Should I kill myself.
Were you against dark seer? If you were not, yes, if you were, did you build a raw damage item? If you did, no, if you did not, yes and better by Burning himself.
On April 24 2014 17:58 Surprise.820 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 04:01 lolfail9001 wrote:On April 24 2014 02:20 ChunderBoy wrote:
Make reflection scale, change BAT to 1.7
Illusion heroes dont deserve good BATs. Dare to elaborate why they don't :D? Especially since 1.5 BAT is overall ~13% dps increase over 1.7 BAT, not exactly great. Dude, 13% is a bit of a huge difference lol
Yeah, 0.5 seconds less to destroy a t3 tower.
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On April 24 2014 04:01 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 02:20 ChunderBoy wrote:
Make reflection scale, change BAT to 1.7
Illusion heroes dont deserve good BATs. Dare to elaborate why they don't :D? Especially since 1.5 BAT is overall ~13% dps increase over 1.7 BAT, not exactly great.
A lot of the times, fights come down to getting the first and last hit in.
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