On May 25 2016 08:28 Erasme wrote:
Armlet is not the way to go.
aquila boots dragon lance yasha travel manta is.
Armlet is not the way to go.
aquila boots dragon lance yasha travel manta is.
damn i wonder who called it
oh its me
what a surprise
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On May 25 2016 08:28 Erasme wrote: Armlet is not the way to go. aquila boots dragon lance yasha travel manta is. damn i wonder who called it oh its me what a surprise | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On June 09 2016 09:23 Ver wrote: Yeah, just 2 heroes who will threaten to kill the offlane and then make space for you in the midgame. TB is very difficult to lose with if your team actually helps you a lot. Yeah but that's a big issue in pubs, jungle can be contested by your mates which is a big slowdown imo. Sometimes you can afford to to join some relatively early fights but if they have lots of AoE nukes, like let's say timber + other stuf you really don't want. Concerning dragon lance vs yasha first, I have to say it's a tough call, yasha is so much better to farm but dragon lance greatly increases your chance to cast sunder when ganked and get some kills, not that the timing window is big between the completion of both items. The other question, treads or not? Treads are so cost efficient but you quickly miss BoT. Game dependant I guess. If you upgrade to BoT, before or after manta? You drop PMS or QB first? I know it may sound silly, but I felt more comfortable with PMS on rather than QB whereas my guts feeling tells me it's wrong. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Deleted User 261926
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On June 09 2016 18:02 nojok wrote: Show nested quote + On June 09 2016 09:23 Ver wrote: Yeah, just 2 heroes who will threaten to kill the offlane and then make space for you in the midgame. TB is very difficult to lose with if your team actually helps you a lot. Yeah but that's a big issue in pubs, jungle can be contested by your mates which is a big slowdown imo. Sometimes you can afford to to join some relatively early fights but if they have lots of AoE nukes, like let's say timber + other stuf you really don't want. Concerning dragon lance vs yasha first, I have to say it's a tough call, yasha is so much better to farm but dragon lance greatly increases your chance to cast sunder when ganked and get some kills, not that the timing window is big between the completion of both items. The other question, treads or not? Treads are so cost efficient but you quickly miss BoT. Game dependant I guess. If you upgrade to BoT, before or after manta? You drop PMS or QB first? I know it may sound silly, but I felt more comfortable with PMS on rather than QB whereas my guts feeling tells me it's wrong. QB Is sacred. Remember to make a prayer and bid her farewell before dropping her. | ||
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On March 08 2017 08:55 Birdie wrote: Is stacking butterflies actually that good? It was a build that zenoth (one of the top tb players early on, along with matrice) used alot then. The play style is 100% rat. Non stop illusions that can't be cleared by right clicks, not every hero having access to mkb, slowly but surely chipping away raxes while the hero is safe elsewhere. | ||
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HopLight
Sweden999 Posts
On March 08 2017 10:14 DucK- wrote: It was a build that zenoth (one of the top tb players early on, along with matrice) used alot then. The play style is 100% rat. Non stop illusions that can't be cleared by right clicks, not every hero having access to mkb, slowly but surely chipping away raxes while the hero is safe elsewhere. It was hilarious back then. TB was so broken you could 6 slot him with 3x butterfly at around 30 min just jungling him from lvl 1 and just watch their team melt. | ||
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DucK-
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
Plus after you get ur manta, you either wanna tank up a bit and stick on ur targets with skadi or you seriously need some defence in the form of bkb. But sometimes he just spams butterfly and blows my mind on how hes just able to set up conditions where its just a split push game... | ||
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Archeon
3265 Posts
Metamorphosis TB pushes tower's down in a quarter of the time an average carry needs and he's hard to chase down when he spreads illus all over the jungle. On March 09 2017 02:36 DucK- wrote: Umm if we're talking about dota 1, I liked the life drain skill. Was pretty fun Yeah that shit was broken AF. Good times :D | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On March 15 2017 22:08 Shock710 wrote: how the hell is matumbaman building butterfly straight after manta, the logic i always followed was butterfly isnt good to get early because it lets ur opponents consider mkb, while sometimes in the late game if u see them commit to a big item you can just buy butterfly (stockpiling the gold) for a timing where they dont have the gold to buy it. Plus after you get ur manta, you either wanna tank up a bit and stick on ur targets with skadi or you seriously need some defence in the form of bkb. But sometimes he just spams butterfly and blows my mind on how hes just able to set up conditions where its just a split push game... No carry is going to get an mkb at that timing to counter your butterfly. Also even if the said carry has mkb, that hero alone can't defend against tb split push. Mkb is actually not a hard counter to mass butterfly tb. You need the right heroes. | ||
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