EPT[Hero] Terrorblade - Page 2
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KOFgokuon
United States14910 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
On January 31 2014 22:28 TrainSamurai wrote: SnY or manta? Thoughts? So far I've found the radiance build very underwhelming (still strong just compared to other builds radiance doesn't add much) I've been going SnY without really thinking about why. It seems strong tho. | ||
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LonelyCat
United Kingdom130 Posts
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idonthinksobro
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LonelyCat
United Kingdom130 Posts
treads manta drum aquila/wand/pms tp (bkb) slot-efficiency is probably important vs cost-efficiency as no item you want next is cost efficient, so skadi is probably one of the better options (butterfly also good). Skadi isn't core like manta but I think its certainly a strong choice after the core. I don't disagree with his early timings (manta + 1) being strong though - i think the choice you make (split push/farm or fight) at that point being dependent on team makeups rather than the weakness of the hero until late game. Late game he does feel near unbeatable though, but 550 range, 1.6 BAT on a decent farming speed hero with high base armor and good stat growth and a "second life" (from sunder) with illusions that scale with his damage and the enemy carries damage is such a strong skill set relatively few heroes keep up, maybe dusa/void/gyro simply due to the strengths of their ultimates/aoe damage. | ||
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
Radiance TB can be strong but it's pretty greedy. It means like an extra 10 minutes that you get to burst him down for free. | ||
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
U dun nid a lot of dmg early as metamorphosis gives him ridiculous dmg to him and his illusions so just build up stats so strengthen the illusion . Late game , you are not as beastly as you are in midgame so just build whatever + BKB eg MKB if opponent has evasion or satanic if you wanna survive more All in all you lose most of the time if your mid game is shit as he is kind of like a gyro where in the mid game is when you truly bloom and slow start to fall off late game so end fast! | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
Sunder works on illusions. You can do the rest of the thinking here. Skadi on a ranged illusion carry is absolutely ridiculous. Sick stats + the snow = you can just stick a target and kill. The SNY + BKB + HOTD build I see a lot of Terrors going is garbage. Terror's stat gain + the metamorphosis base dmg increase just makes illusions so strong on him. Skadi as an orb is also much better than maim. If you're not farming well get an aquila and use illusions. He's actually an incredibly good laning carry against single offlaners. Reflection gives him and any allies 5 seconds to just whack you. If you have a low armor offlaner, you're fucked. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
2) Always consider BKB on this hero. I have seen so many TB players skipping it. It doesn't matter how hard you hit if you are going to be disabled and burst down. Don't put too much faith in Sunder. 3) Reflection is a 1 point wonder. It has a ridiculous slow, which means an almost certain kill in ganks. You can max it at 23, 24, 25. It's up to you to view how important the CD is. With it's pathetic cast range, you almost hardly use it unless you have setup. 4) Metamorphosis should almost always be maxed first. Only reason not to max it is if you are jungling. 5) It's good to get some HP on him. A casual Ogre Axe into BKB is very useful. Alternatively, you can go for SnY, or casual Bracer/Wraith. 6) Conjure Image can be delayed. Sunder can be delayed or left at level 1. Either of this would favour going Stats heavy instead. Personally because a) TB doesn't need damage items early on, b) I am quite heavy on Stats early on, c) I get HP items + HotD early, I hardly see a need to get Sunder early. It's preference. 7) End game items should be around the likes of Skadi Satanic BoT Butterfly Manta MKB BKB Daedelus. Pretty standard ranged DPS carry stuff. 8) Radiance is quite bad on this hero. 9) Don't bother with Midas. 10) Play style is pretty much farm in lane, and push towers subsequently. Then keep farming. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 01 2014 01:52 DucK- wrote: 1) Don't get Drums on this hero. In fact you can skip Drums on MANY heroes. 2) Always consider BKB on this hero. I have seen so many TB players skipping it. It doesn't matter how hard you hit if you are going to be disabled and burst down. Don't put too much faith in Sunder. 3) Reflection is a 1 point wonder. It has a ridiculous slow, which means an almost certain kill in ganks. You can max it at 23, 24, 25. It's up to you to view how important the CD is. With it's pathetic cast range, you almost hardly use it unless you have setup. 4) Metamorphosis should almost always be maxed first. Only reason not to max it is if you are jungling. 5) It's good to get some HP on him. A casual Ogre Axe into BKB is very useful. Alternatively, you can go for SnY, or casual Bracer/Wraith. 6) Conjure Image can be delayed. Sunder can be delayed or left at level 1. Either of this would favour going Stats heavy instead. Personally because a) TB doesn't need damage items early on, b) I am quite heavy on Stats early on, c) I get HP items + HotD early, I hardly see a need to get Sunder early. It's preference. 7) End game items should be around the likes of Skadi Satanic BoT Butterfly Manta MKB BKB Daedelus. Pretty standard ranged DPS carry stuff. 8) Radiance is quite bad on this hero. 9) Don't bother with Midas. 10) Play style is pretty much farm in lane, and push towers subsequently. Then keep farming. Gonna agree with all of this but i would also consider ethereal on him mid-lategame too. 40 agility on him converts into ridiculous level of dmg (something close to +100 dmg and 40 IAS with some HP and MP on top of that). And active can easily be a good sunder follow up come lategame. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
Maybe something like SnY/Linkens into Manta could work well for him ? Thoughts ? | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
On February 01 2014 01:52 DucK- wrote: 1) Don't get Drums on this hero. In fact you can skip Drums on MANY heroes. 2) Always consider BKB on this hero. I have seen so many TB players skipping it. It doesn't matter how hard you hit if you are going to be disabled and burst down. Don't put too much faith in Sunder. 3) Reflection is a 1 point wonder. It has a ridiculous slow, which means an almost certain kill in ganks. You can max it at 23, 24, 25. It's up to you to view how important the CD is. With it's pathetic cast range, you almost hardly use it unless you have setup. 4) Metamorphosis should almost always be maxed first. Only reason not to max it is if you are jungling. 5) It's good to get some HP on him. A casual Ogre Axe into BKB is very useful. Alternatively, you can go for SnY, or casual Bracer/Wraith. 6) Conjure Image can be delayed. Sunder can be delayed or left at level 1. Either of this would favour going Stats heavy instead. Personally because a) TB doesn't need damage items early on, b) I am quite heavy on Stats early on, c) I get HP items + HotD early, I hardly see a need to get Sunder early. It's preference. 7) End game items should be around the likes of Skadi Satanic BoT Butterfly Manta MKB BKB Daedelus. Pretty standard ranged DPS carry stuff. 8) Radiance is quite bad on this hero. 9) Don't bother with Midas. 10) Play style is pretty much farm in lane, and push towers subsequently. Then keep farming. Agree with this mostly, TB is pretty damn paper and without metamorphosis he can't do as much things cause he just don't have any sort of lockdown to kill anyone. SnY gives you good stats + coupled with movespeed it allows you to mow down your opponents with your metamorph illusions thanks to the ridiculous extra damage from metamorph. | ||
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Hagen0
Germany765 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On February 01 2014 04:34 Hagen0 wrote: I may be wrong but I was under the impression that S&Y and Skadi stack fully. They do. But it can be overkillish. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Zealos
United Kingdom3576 Posts
I have to disagree with people who think this guy isnt lategame, he is absurdly strong late. EDIT: And slot in BKB where appropriate | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On February 01 2014 13:15 DucK- wrote: While Skadi is a great item on him (one of the best in fact), it is a rubbish item to be rushing for on any hero. Think of it as an luxury extension, and don't build the hero around it. nope terrorblade is the exception terrorblade is the only hero where a skadi rush is pretty legit mb squeeze in a yasha but thats it....skadi,manta and bfly...gg | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On February 01 2014 13:35 Zealos wrote: I think SnY into small crit then Bfly/Skadi/Maybe Lifesteal then finishing your crit into heart. I have to disagree with people who think this guy isnt lategame, he is absurdly strong late. EDIT: And slot in BKB where appropriate Yes he is strong lategame but he is also strong really early in the game peaking around lvl 7 when you have 4 in metamorphosis. If you simply start gaming when you have a manta there are not many heros that will stand a chance unless they have a lot of nukes or a lot of stuns in that case you need a bkb too. | ||
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