EPTTeam Liquid Discussion - Page 344
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
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Ferricks
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juuto
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
Cross fingers that they can pull out the draw at least. Do not see them winning against LGD in this shape. | ||
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mda
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Seems like playstyle is the problem and not the players. I remember Miracle tearing it up with a mid Sven and pounding a SumaiL Storm less than 15 minutes in. What happened to those drafts where he played an active carry/mid? | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Actually wining 1 game at least would've been pretty close to having a big chance of Upper bracket, because of how this group is going. But now we have to win pretty much all the other games, or maybe drop 1 more for a tiebreaker? Hopefully it will be a new day so they get get their shit togheter. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34499 Posts
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
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MintberryCrunchs
Germany462 Posts
On August 16 2019 18:59 mda wrote: I looked at the PSG LGD game 1 draft and thought it was a draft from a few months ago... :[ Seems like playstyle is the problem and not the players. I remember Miracle tearing it up with a mid Sven and pounding a SumaiL Storm less than 15 minutes in. What happened to those drafts where he played an active carry/mid? Agreed 100%! I was allways wondering and thinking (might sound like Captain Hindsight), is playing the hard farming carry really what Miracle likes to play and can show his full potential? Dont get me wrong, this is not to put the blame on him or giving him fault for anything. I am a huge fan of him and i think he is a blessed player way beyond 99.999999999% of anyone else. I think he is a very creative player and he strives on doing things his way, making his presence shown on the map rather by plays, skills and his way of clicking those buttons then by farm (although, ofc. this correlates). I think mid as it is right now might give a player more freedom in playstyle and thus, be better fitting for miracle? I would love see him in a role similar to what midone is doing in Secret (gets way to little credit - that man is a beast). Midone can play with little farm, making all the space in the world just by beeing so damn talented that he doesnt rely on his farm. But he can also play the farming carry and carry the game play plays, scaling and farm. I think it could fit Miracle very well, not beeing locked into one particular style of play aka. beeing the 1 in the 4protect1 strats liquid nearly only runs currently. Again, this is just some out of the box thinking, not related to whats happening in groups right now. Just remember: TI7 was a lower bracket run aswell. Its not over til the fat lady sings! | ||
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juuto
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lasl
Romania21 Posts
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mda
12 Posts
Reboot the team chemistry and play the same strats :[ [Edit] Where's the w33 WR? I'm rooting for TL, CHAOS and OG. By the looks of it though, only OG will make it in the group top 4. | ||
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MintberryCrunchs
Germany462 Posts
On August 16 2019 20:06 juuto wrote: I'm just going to look on bright side of things. Now that Liquid is performing the way they are, now we can put all our energy into thinking about the endless possibilities for the next Liquid roster for next season. Who do you guys want to see join the team next season? Maybe Heen will finally return! You are the fan every Sports and E-Sports Team loves to have! You're probably great to have at Parties aswell ... | ||
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Faruko
Chile34172 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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juuto
809 Posts
Compare this Liquid to OG who are destroying teams with Io carry a year after they won TI. Unless they manage to win TI, this Liquid roster is done. It's still possible for them to temporarily overcome their problems and get a good result, I don't completely doubt that, but nothing short of a win will save this Liquid roster from a shuffle. There's just no point in them sticking together as 5. They've been stomped by Secret the entire year, they've bombed out of so many tournaments, and changing w33 for Matu seems to not have been enough. Some fans may be happy with two top 2 finishes but I doubt Liquid feels the same way. Change is necessary if Liquid ever wants to be able to consistently win tournaments ever again. They've been plagued by the same problems for far too long. | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On a meta level your post is interesting because it's a perfect reflection on the pro players view on Dota. Nothing matters outside of TI. Something I think is quite frustrating because it results in views like this, which results in players getting harassed for one bad tournament (ana after TI7 is a prime example). I'm not saying YOU are harassing players but I'm saying that the view that TI is everything is actually creating toxicity in the community. | ||
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juuto
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noh2o
China71 Posts
On August 16 2019 19:51 NInoff wrote: Again both games lost by too many mistakes by cores. Weird how is this happening - First game MC went in behind Gyro with no vision and just died, now Miracle went in to LifeStealer that is hard counter to him, with no Chemical Rage, no BKB and no Buyback? WTF are they doing? Actually wining 1 game at least would've been pretty close to having a big chance of Upper bracket, because of how this group is going. But now we have to win pretty much all the other games, or maybe drop 1 more for a tiebreaker? Hopefully it will be a new day so they get get their shit togheter. mc played worse and worse after epicenter major. and shit shit shit draft. ember vs dp in the middle? kuro is not a support,he has a carryheart played 5 pos puck,and got phase boot what a fxxk | ||
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Ferricks
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