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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On October 26 2016 02:35 SkelA wrote: Miracle just not living up to expectations as a mid player. I don't know if I've seen a game yet where more than 1 player lived up to their potential. Everyone is just off right now | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
On paper it looked like they had no chance vs Liquid 30 mins in, but our boys were lost again, feeding, bad positioning, no vision across the river, obvious smokes, MEGA defensive supports. That are literally useless... Hell Mirana goes on 1l, slardar on the otehr, while Lock, Clock, Beastmaster keep sven + timber in check ---> gg. Briliant play from Escape, Bad from Liquid. As usual. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Drearcerberus
United States21 Posts
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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United States7542 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 25 2016 22:54 Laertes wrote: Don't forget that Bulba has extragame abilities which compensate for him as well. He apparantly understands the game very well and people like him, meaning he'll be more likely to resolve possibly toxic situations that might arise in the current liquid. On October 26 2016 02:58 Pontual wrote: At this point, do you guys think Kuro needs a help captaining? Like Blitz? If it is something like that hire someone, even -Fata would be great, for everyone. Reminder that Bulba is supposed to be that help... | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
He just seems to not survive the offlane. | ||
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Drearcerberus
United States21 Posts
Honestly MC has really been the weak leak imo, like look in this game he's so weak. He just seems to not survive the offlane. The offlane timber in both game isn't doing him any favors. Miracle should have been playing timber mid in game 1 and in game 2 they should have drafted him something else. These drafts/laning choices are just making them so vulnerable to getting run over. | ||
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United States7542 Posts
On October 26 2016 03:22 Shaella wrote: Honestly MC has really been the weak leak imo, like look in this game he's so weak. He just seems to not survive the offlane. I think it's overlapping weaknesses. MC has been weak in the offlane. Kuro/Bulba have weak early map presence (even with good playing mechanics otherwise) which makes it much easier to pressure MC in the offlane as well as mid/safelane cores. Not having someone come out of the offlane with the proper levels/farms means a ton of pressure on Miracle & Matumbaman for fights in the early/mid game when you'd rather have them able to solidify their farm and hit strong timings. Then a combination of all that is there's less breathing room/timing for Matumba/Miracle to exploit their early farm because the enemy team is never really losing any lane enough to be a liability though neither of them are exactly stepping up either. Like a good example is this game... MC is playing weakly in the offlane. Meanwhile there's no credible pressure on the other lanes so we see Esc comfortably trilaning top without losing much on the other lanes. Then we get under farmed Timber meaning in the mid game Matumba is pushing hard for kills and map control over farm so he's not pulling ahead. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On October 26 2016 03:29 Drearcerberus wrote: The offlane timber in both game isn't doing him any favors. Miracle should have been playing timber mid in game 1 and in game 2 they should have drafted him something else. These drafts/laning choices are just making them so vulnerable to getting run over. Its just bizzare, MC seems not to be able to pilot the hero at all in the offlane to boot. | ||
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TriCkster135
Germany80 Posts
They should watch the replays and learn from Escape how a real team plays. I nearly watched every Liquid, but i cann't take thus anymore. Losing is ok, but the way they are losing is just so bad. | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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Deleted User 97295
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On October 26 2016 03:48 Laertes wrote: Lul liquid 0-2 against Escape. lul indeed. Jesus. That was awful. | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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danielbe
Colombia24 Posts
The way this is going, they're not going to qualify to the major and there will be changes immediately afterwards. Like someone predicted elsewhere, I think OG don't perform on the major and then reacquire Miracle. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Yapzor showed us how much we miss Jerax too, his clock/ES were just amazing creating so much space. Allowing Synderen to have the role Kuro used to have (besides going full retard and giving Jerax Warlock) - simple hero, allowing him to coordinate the team from that 5 position. Bulba played well, really well timed graves etc. I liked his performance | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
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