EPTLast iteration, FATA was always ready to carry mid game, until matumba had enough farm or vice versa. Jerax would keep the opponents busy early. Mindcontrol tilted the offlane in liquid's favour and kuro just went greedy. I just feel that in this iteration, its either all early game or all late game without the skill to fill the gaps in between. Miracle has on and off performances, where what the team needs is a stable presence.
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X.Salvation
Singapore66 Posts
Last iteration, FATA was always ready to carry mid game, until matumba had enough farm or vice versa. Jerax would keep the opponents busy early. Mindcontrol tilted the offlane in liquid's favour and kuro just went greedy. I just feel that in this iteration, its either all early game or all late game without the skill to fill the gaps in between. Miracle has on and off performances, where what the team needs is a stable presence. | ||
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Aurrius
Germany120 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
 No answer to a timber Hopefully the boys figure it out soon | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
First time they play vs a team with high enough individual skill level shows what the reality is. | ||
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Anamorph
236 Posts
Its not just the drafts, the whole strategy is strange. I am sure they would perform better if they just play the same style they played before not even adapting to new players. The way they play now, does not fit anyone. .. and I am sorry, it s not like I am on a bulba hate train, he is in this case not the reason they fail so hard - but he simply does not fit into them. The playstyle, heropool etc. no way this will work. They need someone with a jerax playstyle, yapzor or saksa for example. | ||
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danielbe
Colombia24 Posts
I really feel that this change in style is all due to him. He's not mechanically skilled, so he plays defensive supports, in a position that used to be Kuro's. Kuroky is forced to go roaming, tempo controlling supports that really don't suit him. He's the "stay back and farm the jungle" kind of support. And Miracle can't find his place in a team without a dedicated playmaker like Cr1t. If they hadn't lost Jerax, this team would be incredibly succesful. But Bulba just doesn't work. | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
I see two main issues 1. Weird drafts, very often bad ones. 2. Very poor in game decisions, very very poor teamwork, very very very rare they know when it is time to back off. So probably all comes to bad game plan. Whoever is doing that needs to change his mindset. This team playstyle if there is any is different than the one they are currently trying. I am usually ok when they get outplayed, After all its pro dota there are a lot of awesome players. And sometimes they will carry hard their teams - it happens. But i can't accept the amount of mistakes they are making and especially the lack of synergy. Probably for the past couple of days they made more mistakes than they did in the first 6 months of this year. | ||
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ref4
2933 Posts
On October 21 2016 03:09 danielbe wrote: That was a trainwreck. And yes, I'm on board with the bulba hate train. I really feel that this change in style is all due to him. He's not mechanically skilled, so he plays defensive supports, in a position that used to be Kuro's. Kuroky is forced to go roaming, tempo controlling supports that really don't suit him. He's the "stay back and farm the jungle" kind of support. And Miracle can't find his place in a team without a dedicated playmaker like Cr1t. If they hadn't lost Jerax, this team would be incredibly succesful. But Bulba just doesn't work. Just you wait Kuro is playing the long con because he knows that Icefrog will buff clockwerk in patch 6.9 and liquid will get carried by the famous blublo clock to Ti7 victory | ||
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
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Drearcerberus
United States21 Posts
On October 21 2016 03:09 danielbe wrote: That was a trainwreck. And yes, I'm on board with the bulba hate train. I really feel that this change in style is all due to him. He's not mechanically skilled, so he plays defensive supports, in a position that used to be Kuro's. Kuroky is forced to go roaming, tempo controlling supports that really don't suit him. He's the "stay back and farm the jungle" kind of support. And Miracle can't find his place in a team without a dedicated playmaker like Cr1t. If they hadn't lost Jerax, this team would be incredibly succesful. But Bulba just doesn't work. Maybe, maybe not. Blaming Bulba for all the team's issues is misguided. They stick around too long in fights that they've won and then feed back kills. They dive too deep and give up kills they shouldn't. Is Jerax the shot caller that's going to make the calls for his team to stop them from doing this? I doubt it as he's reportedly very quiet. Every game there are too many bad laning decisions and too many mistakes that are spread out over the entire team. Bulba will never be the best player on this team, but from what I've seen he's been far from the worst. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Liquid best team in the world confirmed | ||
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34501 Posts
That was tense | ||
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Netherlands4989 Posts
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