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PandaRed
France58 Posts
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
 Let's hope our boys will overcome their "new team" difficulties. | ||
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Jinkku
Finland36 Posts
On October 12 2016 05:49 Xurr wrote: Obviously to early to say but it seems without a stable backbone(Fata-) something is missing. I Dont think this faceplant had anything to do with Fata missing, the whole team was just completely out of sync. Miracle can perform just as stable, for sure. They just need more time playing together. First game felt liike they went in overconfident, with the early huskar pick and just overall playing too brave and cocky. Second game Liquid didnt really get anything done. I feel, if anything, the support duo will hold them back from greatness, but we'll see I guess, it's way too early to judge. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Drearcerberus
United States21 Posts
On October 12 2016 08:46 DucK- wrote: How bad was Bulba? Not as bad as Miracle was. Unless he was drafting you can't fault him for the first game. Drow and Huskar first 2 picks...really? Then they didn't secure a good Huskar partner (because he was picked so early Io, Orcale, and Dazzle got banned). Then the lanes were a joke.Huskar was over aggressive versus a trilane and dies and that was the beginning of the end as Liquid's lineup needed to be ahead. Only Kuroky looked to be playing decent. I didn't get to see as much of the second game because I was on a train, but I doubt Bulba was the sole reason for them losing that game as well as from what I saw Miracle got crushed mid and got caught a lot. In the end, Dota is a team game and a lot of the team didn't play well. The first game's draft and laning were bad. And the list goes on. One player didn't lose them these games. | ||
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Orangao
Brazil1 Post
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Papercappu
Canada2210 Posts
On October 12 2016 08:46 DucK- wrote: How bad was Bulba? Everyone was bad. VP also played super well though especially noone | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On October 12 2016 08:46 DucK- wrote: How bad was Bulba? No worse than everyone else on the team | ||
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
Even tho the loss is not only on Bulba, it might just be the Bulba effect... Kind of every team he joins just cant win it seems... | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On October 12 2016 10:42 Atoissen wrote: Kuro was the best player for Liquid today, but none of them played very well. Even tho the loss is not only on Bulba, it might just be the Bulba effect... Kind of every team he joins just cant win it seems... maybe he's cursed | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3441 Posts
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Anamorph
236 Posts
On October 12 2016 13:19 vndestiny wrote: Can we not flame Bulba after 2 games when he didn't even do anything too outrageously wrong. ? It s not like you need something big to see someone playing bad. He was not even able to use clarity in a safe spot - this undying performance was so damn bad, and the oracle too. I really would like to get a statistic where you can see bulba healing the enemy more with his plays then actually making dmg nukes as oracle. Anyway - first game was outdrafted, and the second game draft was bullshit too. I dont understand this new approaches in their draft. Ursa in that scenario ?! common you got a slardar first 2 and mirana with a lot of magical dmg + kunkka - why not lifestealer? You also have the storm synergy. Same bullshit with ES - just go for bounty/riki and they would have an easy mid... For me it s a draft fail and a lot of missplays from bulba g1,g2 und miracle g1. Team coordination was bad too - you saw it in the mid fight happening where they die 1by1 in game 1. That was a bad call, who ever went for that. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Game1 was just goofy all around them trying new stuff for dreamlueague that doesn't really matter. Miracle never played trilane top on huskar in his life Same with MC mid Puck And it really showed And then they probably plan on getting Oracle/Dazzle/Omni for Huskar but surprice mofo! VP ban 2 and pick one and suddenly you have a terrible outdraft. Oracle actually takes a lot of skill/experience to play well Bulba doesn't have since he didn't play support in ages. Experience he will get, skill he doesn't have but they can just stick him on 5 pos straightforward heroes, and Kuro is a great playmaking support anyways. Nobody expects Bulba to start winning games for the team anytime soon, it's his nice guy persona that gels the team together, ideas to draft why players like to play with him I presume. What will take time is the communication in-game, last time around Kuro was most of the time on the simpler supports that dont need much attention where Jerax would be making plays and play high intensity heroes like ES, Rubick... And Kuro had space to focus on calling shots in-game where now they have a new guy with a voice AND Kuro needs to focus on himself on these high impact heroes. Just give them time, they deserve it. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
- just needs pure mechanical skill He had just a couple games on oracle and one undying | ||
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Anamorph
236 Posts
The funny part, none of the teams he played with, shows a good early game or even good early strategies. I agree on that draft commend - but I am also confused why they make a husk+drow comb pick with io being banned. You can pick it, without a problem, the important point is - no IO ban, no Dazzle, Oracle or omni ban in first 2. Thats it, you will always get one of the supps supporting the husk play. Going for drow + husk with an io ban results in what we saw yesterday. | ||
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TriCkster135
Germany80 Posts
Kuro played ok and matu somewhat okayish. Bulba, Miracle and MC had like zero impact in both games. They were outdrafted in both games. But VP played well and deserved to win. Also its just one BO2. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
how are you even gonna try to say that bulba healed the other team more than he damaged him like you can't possibly think that People are so fucking stupid. | ||
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