• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:58
CET 19:58
KST 03:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series19
StarCraft 2
General
GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 517 Distant Threat The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1795 users

Team Secret Discussion - Page 35

Forum Index > Dota 2 Player & Team Discussion
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 219 Next
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2015 18:43 GMT
#681
the whole 1-5 system, as well as single/dual/tri-core distinctions are all heavily abused to the point of senselessness.

buuuut you use what you have.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 19:49:00
March 02 2015 19:43 GMT
#682
On March 03 2015 01:52 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 00:34 dmnum wrote:
How the hell am I one of the "usual suspects" when I barely even post here?
I asked you first what were your reasons for saying RTZ won't move to Europe and you went on the defensive, do you honestly expect to not be challenged on your claims when you don't provide support for them?

No, what I expect is for people to keep up on the facts if they want to have a debate. I have zero interest in litigating every statement I make, even less if the person in question apparently isn't even familiar with the basic current information on the subjects in question, which is the case here.

If you want to challenge me, feel free. But I don't owe you anything.

What's your problem? I asked you nicely the first time why thought RTZ wasn't moving because of nationalism and you snapped into defensive. Then you said you have your reasons for believing so but you weren't going to share because I'd just strawman the hell out of you, then you said if I kept up with the scene I'd know why you were making such claims. It sounds like you're running from the argument.

I'm willing to be proven wrong(in fact I'd like to be proven wrong, then I'll learn something), so I'm going to ask again: why exactly do you believe nationalism is the reason RTZ refuses to move from Canada to Europe?
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
March 02 2015 20:02 GMT
#683
On March 03 2015 03:25 Beirut wrote:
Really didn't feel like the recent TL article had a lot of substance. It felt like the "counters" to Team Secret's strategy were literally just general dota tips.

Show nested quote +
Another big weakness lies in the way that Secret relies on their players during certain periods of the game. Earlygame Secret relies heavily on its supports to secure exp and farm on heroes that might struggle in lane versus the enemy team, while in the midgame the team relies on Zai to pave the way for s4 and RTZ to get farm.


I mean these are more or less the default roles, but they're construed here as some kind of weaknesses. Supports secure exp and farm on heroes that might struggle in lane and the offlaner has a big role in the midgame.

Well you need to read between the lines a little bit. The cores that they preferred (Lycan, SF) are not amazing laners and needed support help to make sure to secure a gold/XP lead vs the other team's more self-sufficient cores. By forcing Kuro/Puppey onto non-comfortable heros they countered this the best.

On March 03 2015 03:25 Beirut wrote:
There are other examples. It just felt like the first section about their playstyle was a lot more insightful than the second, which focuses on their counters. Really liked the note about how defensively they play in the early game, and their preference for tri-core. What is tri-core, anyway? When does a strong initiator/utility non-carry NOT qualify as a core?


"Core" and "Carry" get used interchangeably so much that it's hard to get what they specifically meant; I thought they were saying that all three of their cores would generally need farm early to make sure that they made their midgame impacts. If you run a Brood as 3, he needs farm to make an impact at 10:00. If you run Tide as a 3, he doesn't NEED any kind of farm because he makes an impact at level six even if he got shut down in lane.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 11:05:03
March 03 2015 11:03 GMT
#684
Arteezy is listening to Aaron Carter

lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
March 03 2015 11:10 GMT
#685
Actually, Arteezy playing this lina raging while Backstreet Boys are playing at the background is one of the funniest shit I've seen on stream! LOL
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 11:27:55
March 03 2015 11:22 GMT
#686
lol fresh prince of bel air, how old is rtz, is he old enough for it ? or its still aired on USA ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
March 03 2015 11:43 GMT
#687
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
March 03 2015 12:57 GMT
#688
On March 03 2015 20:43 Geisterkarle wrote:
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?

When i woke up at 7:30 (its 10AM here), he was already streaming
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
March 03 2015 14:33 GMT
#689
On March 03 2015 20:43 Geisterkarle wrote:
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?

Depends when u turn of in the evenings...
We live in the same time zone if u live in Germany, and I saw him first time yesterday at around 10:00 PM or so.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 03 2015 17:22 GMT
#690
On March 03 2015 20:43 Geisterkarle wrote:
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?


you hsould just follow him on twitter, he usually says when he's streaming
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
March 03 2015 20:49 GMT
#691
I missed the secret game today, is there any link to a replay available ?

Also on a more general note, is it possible to watch a replay of pro match in game without paying the tickets? Like with the match id or something?
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 03 2015 20:51 GMT
#692
there was no Secret game today, Secret/Alliance got cancelled for whatever reason
Liquipedia
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
March 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#693
Secret has new logo? Can be seen on liquipedia
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
March 04 2015 14:42 GMT
#694
Yeah the had it for a week or so, curious if it's related to some official announcement, since their last one was made by a fan.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Jelissei
Profile Joined June 2012
193 Posts
March 04 2015 19:33 GMT
#695
I liked the last one better. Am a tidy bit sad.
Vankuga
Profile Joined April 2012
Panama2005 Posts
March 04 2015 22:48 GMT
#696
The new logo by Danidem

Vankuga
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 04 2015 22:50 GMT
#697
Those banners look legit as fuck.

It's a good logo. Danidem is a beast.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 05 2015 02:53 GMT
#698
team name still sucks
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2029 Posts
March 05 2015 07:43 GMT
#699
Feels like that logo and theme are begging to be pasted on some team specific gear. Anything with a cape should be a good starting point.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 17:18:42
March 05 2015 17:15 GMT
#700
I see S4 streaming with Bulldog and i tell to myself I want the rat on this team

Also hilarious :

Bdog : So you're telling me a pubstack is better than Team Secret ?
S4 : Maybe one in a hundred games we have this yolo game ?
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 219 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Patches Events
17:00
Modded Open Cup
davetesta68
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Liquid`TLO 495
mouzHeroMarine 222
MindelVK 96
EmSc Tv 24
ProTech8
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4671
Jaedong 683
Mini 643
EffOrt 348
actioN 181
sorry 63
Hm[arnc] 25
GoRush 13
Dota 2
Gorgc7073
qojqva1375
capcasts153
monkeys_forever72
Counter-Strike
fl0m4435
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor718
Liquid`Hasu594
Other Games
gofns57871
tarik_tv22468
Liquid`RaSZi1406
B2W.Neo798
crisheroes238
Hui .133
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream20296
Other Games
gamesdonequick1081
ComeBackTV 331
BasetradeTV55
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 24
EmSc2Tv 24
angryscii 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 17
• Reevou 4
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 22
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
• Airneanach0
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1090
• lizZardDota246
Other Games
• imaqtpie1287
• Shiphtur404
Upcoming Events
BSL
1h 2m
GSL
13h 2m
Wardi Open
17h 2m
Monday Night Weeklies
22h 2m
WardiTV Team League
1d 17h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.