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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 02 2015 18:43 GMT
#681
the whole 1-5 system, as well as single/dual/tri-core distinctions are all heavily abused to the point of senselessness.

buuuut you use what you have.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-02 19:49:00
March 02 2015 19:43 GMT
#682
On March 03 2015 01:52 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2015 00:34 dmnum wrote:
How the hell am I one of the "usual suspects" when I barely even post here?
I asked you first what were your reasons for saying RTZ won't move to Europe and you went on the defensive, do you honestly expect to not be challenged on your claims when you don't provide support for them?

No, what I expect is for people to keep up on the facts if they want to have a debate. I have zero interest in litigating every statement I make, even less if the person in question apparently isn't even familiar with the basic current information on the subjects in question, which is the case here.

If you want to challenge me, feel free. But I don't owe you anything.

What's your problem? I asked you nicely the first time why thought RTZ wasn't moving because of nationalism and you snapped into defensive. Then you said you have your reasons for believing so but you weren't going to share because I'd just strawman the hell out of you, then you said if I kept up with the scene I'd know why you were making such claims. It sounds like you're running from the argument.

I'm willing to be proven wrong(in fact I'd like to be proven wrong, then I'll learn something), so I'm going to ask again: why exactly do you believe nationalism is the reason RTZ refuses to move from Canada to Europe?
schmitty9800
Profile Joined August 2010
United States390 Posts
March 02 2015 20:02 GMT
#683
On March 03 2015 03:25 Beirut wrote:
Really didn't feel like the recent TL article had a lot of substance. It felt like the "counters" to Team Secret's strategy were literally just general dota tips.

Show nested quote +
Another big weakness lies in the way that Secret relies on their players during certain periods of the game. Earlygame Secret relies heavily on its supports to secure exp and farm on heroes that might struggle in lane versus the enemy team, while in the midgame the team relies on Zai to pave the way for s4 and RTZ to get farm.


I mean these are more or less the default roles, but they're construed here as some kind of weaknesses. Supports secure exp and farm on heroes that might struggle in lane and the offlaner has a big role in the midgame.

Well you need to read between the lines a little bit. The cores that they preferred (Lycan, SF) are not amazing laners and needed support help to make sure to secure a gold/XP lead vs the other team's more self-sufficient cores. By forcing Kuro/Puppey onto non-comfortable heros they countered this the best.

On March 03 2015 03:25 Beirut wrote:
There are other examples. It just felt like the first section about their playstyle was a lot more insightful than the second, which focuses on their counters. Really liked the note about how defensively they play in the early game, and their preference for tri-core. What is tri-core, anyway? When does a strong initiator/utility non-carry NOT qualify as a core?


"Core" and "Carry" get used interchangeably so much that it's hard to get what they specifically meant; I thought they were saying that all three of their cores would generally need farm early to make sure that they made their midgame impacts. If you run a Brood as 3, he needs farm to make an impact at 10:00. If you run Tide as a 3, he doesn't NEED any kind of farm because he makes an impact at level six even if he got shut down in lane.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34169 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 11:05:03
March 03 2015 11:03 GMT
#684
Arteezy is listening to Aaron Carter

lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
March 03 2015 11:10 GMT
#685
Actually, Arteezy playing this lina raging while Backstreet Boys are playing at the background is one of the funniest shit I've seen on stream! LOL
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34169 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 11:27:55
March 03 2015 11:22 GMT
#686
lol fresh prince of bel air, how old is rtz, is he old enough for it ? or its still aired on USA ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
March 03 2015 11:43 GMT
#687
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34169 Posts
March 03 2015 12:57 GMT
#688
On March 03 2015 20:43 Geisterkarle wrote:
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?

When i woke up at 7:30 (its 10AM here), he was already streaming
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
March 03 2015 14:33 GMT
#689
On March 03 2015 20:43 Geisterkarle wrote:
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?

Depends when u turn of in the evenings...
We live in the same time zone if u live in Germany, and I saw him first time yesterday at around 10:00 PM or so.
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 03 2015 17:22 GMT
#690
On March 03 2015 20:43 Geisterkarle wrote:
You always talk about RTZ streaming but never see him here on the side
Are his streaming hours so "wrong" for me!?!?


you hsould just follow him on twitter, he usually says when he's streaming
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
March 03 2015 20:49 GMT
#691
I missed the secret game today, is there any link to a replay available ?

Also on a more general note, is it possible to watch a replay of pro match in game without paying the tickets? Like with the match id or something?
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 03 2015 20:51 GMT
#692
there was no Secret game today, Secret/Alliance got cancelled for whatever reason
Liquipedia
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
March 04 2015 13:42 GMT
#693
Secret has new logo? Can be seen on liquipedia
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
March 04 2015 14:42 GMT
#694
Yeah the had it for a week or so, curious if it's related to some official announcement, since their last one was made by a fan.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Jelissei
Profile Joined June 2012
193 Posts
March 04 2015 19:33 GMT
#695
I liked the last one better. Am a tidy bit sad.
Vankuga
Profile Joined April 2012
Panama2005 Posts
March 04 2015 22:48 GMT
#696
The new logo by Danidem

Vankuga
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
March 04 2015 22:50 GMT
#697
Those banners look legit as fuck.

It's a good logo. Danidem is a beast.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 05 2015 02:53 GMT
#698
team name still sucks
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1897 Posts
March 05 2015 07:43 GMT
#699
Feels like that logo and theme are begging to be pasted on some team specific gear. Anything with a cape should be a good starting point.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 17:18:42
March 05 2015 17:15 GMT
#700
I see S4 streaming with Bulldog and i tell to myself I want the rat on this team

Also hilarious :

Bdog : So you're telling me a pubstack is better than Team Secret ?
S4 : Maybe one in a hundred games we have this yolo game ?
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
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