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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 09 2016 18:24 GMT
#4141
On October 10 2016 03:07 Dysisa wrote:
Remember all those people who insisted the silence around this whole situation was because clearly everything had been resolved?


Well they are at least paying out some money, some of the older debts may have been paid (or so I hope). I assumed that given that EE of all people was keeping quiet back then that at least his team was getting their money as intended but apparently not lol.

Aside from the organizational issues some of the stories from even the majors sound pretty crazy. Puppey not playing a lot of pubs and such was pretty known but his priorities even at the majors seem pretty unbelievable with millions on the line.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
October 09 2016 18:38 GMT
#4142
On October 10 2016 03:18 zolasell wrote:
what i dont understand is why did RTZ return to this team?


Was wondering the same... but i'm kinda tilted because i remember RTZ only having good words for Puppey after he left Secret for the first time, i remember he said he was the best player he had ever played with, always working hard for the team, ecc. ecc.... i'm very confused.

And btw, it's impressive the results he achieved with so little work if it's true what Envy said :o
The Real Power~
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
October 09 2016 18:53 GMT
#4143
took long enough but they finally got exposed. hope both kemal and puppey are done for good.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
October 09 2016 20:08 GMT
#4144
Misery's statement

https://medium.com/@MiSeRyDOTA/the-secret-is-out-25f26ceab1cc#.atpxmm47q
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 09 2016 20:14 GMT
#4145
Feels good that puppeys true character is finally shown. My boy kuro was right all the time, i knew it.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 09 2016 20:25 GMT
#4146
Scamcret strikes again. And Puppey somehow manages to look worse than Kuro.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 09 2016 20:49 GMT
#4147
On October 10 2016 05:25 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Scamcret strikes again. And Puppey somehow manages to look worse than Kuro.

Excuse me sir, what did kuro do to look bad? Maybe he made some mistakes, but everyone does that. Even rtz seems to be cool with kuro again. And the puppey chat where he was raging about kuro to theeban should have no meaning, now that we know puppey is a ass for sure. Also kuro never flamed anyone, even after the secret drama. Kuro is just a good guy;)
adzzlie
Profile Joined July 2015
Korea (South)81 Posts
October 10 2016 02:42 GMT
#4148
What worse is, it's not even about whether rtz is 'left' and kuroky is 'right' or vice versa, it's all about puppey all along.
Hardworking people will be rewarded as much as what they have done.
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 07:16:50
October 10 2016 07:16 GMT
#4149
On October 10 2016 03:38 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2016 03:18 zolasell wrote:
what i dont understand is why did RTZ return to this team?


Was wondering the same... but i'm kinda tilted because i remember RTZ only having good words for Puppey after he left Secret for the first time, i remember he said he was the best player he had ever played with, always working hard for the team, ecc. ecc.... i'm very confused.


IMO it's because of the Panda TV deal getting bigger if Secret gets RTZ + Universe (according to Envy's post).
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 08:19:49
October 10 2016 08:19 GMT
#4150
Well i guess secret will have no fans after this. I feel really bad for MP, Forev and Midone, since they just joined the team.
t3rm1nal
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy37 Posts
October 10 2016 08:58 GMT
#4151
honestly...I'm without wArds.

Aro.Abbestia.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 10:08:26
October 10 2016 10:07 GMT
#4152
Well I'll support Puppey after this for sure.
Kinda explains why he was such a strong leader in CIS, so his confidence, outbursts, controlling people by just hammering them probably worked really well.


Although the bad thing for him that during the last few patches Dota has changed completely and not putting in the hours suddenly shows way more, gives rise to hard working youngsters etc. with so many heroes working, so many strategies being viable and countering others... And you having to put in loads of practice in all of a sudden And having the Captain lead the way by not practising is really bad for others to try
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
October 10 2016 14:37 GMT
#4153
It is one thing to be entertained by the leaks, but secret now finding a premium sponsor, no way.
There is no way coca cola, nike or any of the big names ever sign a team with those leaks.

Secret as a brand is gone - they can try to go for some small sponsors but the big fishes got better alternatives.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 15:10:13
October 10 2016 15:06 GMT
#4154
On October 10 2016 23:37 Anamorph wrote:
It is one thing to be entertained by the leaks, but secret now finding a premium sponsor, no way.
There is no way coca cola, nike or any of the big names ever sign a team with those leaks.

Secret as a brand is gone - they can try to go for some small sponsors but the big fishes got better alternatives.


my friend and i used to endearingly joke about secret's name being 'shitcret' while they were underperforming with our favourite players. i guess after that they should be getting toiletry sponsors. going to be hard washing this one out though.

i don't believe any organization is safe from drama, but i believe any team that operates on contracts does much better than a team that bases itself on reputation or persons of interest. each other team and sets of players should be checking each other for marks, defects, and other such things, and rightly so.
i'm so surprised that people put up with any kind of abuse.
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zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
October 10 2016 15:44 GMT
#4155
On October 10 2016 17:19 hunter_x wrote:
Well i guess secret will have no fans after this. I feel really bad for MP, Forev and Midone, since they just joined the team.

im more sad about PLD to be honest.He is a great support and i dont think he would stay in the team if he had a choise.MP Forev and Midone will be part of Tier1 teams again and will be players to look out for in SEA but pie...i dont know
zolasell
Profile Joined April 2016
Greece288 Posts
October 10 2016 15:44 GMT
#4156
On October 10 2016 23:37 Anamorph wrote:
It is one thing to be entertained by the leaks, but secret now finding a premium sponsor, no way.
There is no way coca cola, nike or any of the big names ever sign a team with those leaks.

Secret as a brand is gone - they can try to go for some small sponsors but the big fishes got better alternatives.

I dont think they will find big players as well
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
October 10 2016 20:12 GMT
#4157
Wow this is all so crazy. The magnitude of all of this goes way beyond what I thought possible. If what EE is saying is true, and it seems legit, then I will never cheer for secret or puppey again.

I hope there is justice in the end for all these players that were not paid. I hope esports in general learns from this and improves. The fact that one of the biggest names out there with top level players can exist as an organization and operate like this is unfortunately proof that a large part of esports = still kind of a joke.

Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
October 11 2016 01:34 GMT
#4158
1. Envy just made PLD, MP, Forev and MidOne privy to Kemal's constant lying.
2. Puppey also looks guilty to a few lies and over promises.
3. Puppey is a bully

I thank Envy for going public which saves current/ future players from further scams by Secret.

I feel sorry for all of Secret's previous victims. I hope they can recoup some of what they are owed.

2 years of theft and lies by Secret should mostly be over now.
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 07:54:57
October 11 2016 07:54 GMT
#4159
Fail post sry
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
October 11 2016 15:12 GMT
#4160
What Puppey really needs to say at this point is "we've hired a professional accountant".
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