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I think RTZ will leave becoming disillusioned with puppey. The reason Zai/rtz originally went to Secret was conflict with ppd + respect for s4. S4 drafted and shotcalled them to their long tournament streak in 2015. Came back to EG but the conflicts with ppd didn't end, chose to hope EE + puppey could work even if s4 is gone. Didn't work.
I think rtz/cr1t is one of the biggest chances for a team to form around. Cr1t is basically raised NA, played a TON in NA leagues and is friends with rtz/zai. I can even see zai leaving EG even if they're TI champs just a feeling, but especially if rtz/cr1t set out to make a team.
There's a large pool of offlaners available, moon might be up for grabs and maybe Moo if DC isn't a permanent team (how long does misery/reso/saksa/w33 want to stay in NA?). It'll be a very interesting post TI shuffle.
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man trash EE totally didn't carry secret to finals nope.
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On August 10 2016 13:53 lolnoty wrote:
I think RTZ will leave becoming disillusioned with puppey. The reason Zai/rtz originally went to Secret was conflict with ppd + respect for s4. S4 drafted and shotcalled them to their long tournament streak in 2015. Came back to EG but the conflicts with ppd didn't end, chose to hope EE + puppey could work even if s4 is gone. Didn't work.
I think rtz/cr1t is one of the biggest chances for a team to form around. Cr1t is basically raised NA, played a TON in NA leagues and is friends with rtz/zai. I can even see zai leaving EG even if they're TI champs just a feeling, but especially if rtz/cr1t set out to make a team.
There's a large pool of offlaners available, moon might be up for grabs and maybe Moo if DC isn't a permanent team (how long does misery/reso/saksa/w33 want to stay in NA?). It'll be a very interesting post TI shuffle.
Dom't see OG splitting up. They still won alot of tournaments including 2 majors.
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Enjoyed watching Secret this year, hope they are able to pick themselves up and find better success in the future. Going out early hurts, but just getting to TI was an accomplishment. A lineup change (perhaps a more permanent replacement for Bulba) is probably inevitable, but it seems like they already have a lot of the ingredients for success. They spotted LGD 10 kills and every outer tower 15 minutes into the game, and still were able to play it out to a close contest that turned on a few plays 50+ minutes later. Just needed to work out a more effective early game approach, and the overall result would have been all but assured.
I think anyone somehow blaming EE for the loss really should look in-game at the sequence of decisions and events involving everyone on Secret that leads up to Arteezy dying at Roshan at 67 minutes, moments before PieLieDie would have saved him with Disruption. Once that happens, I don't think there's any scenario where EE could get out alive, especially with metamorphosis expiring.
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That rosh fight was indeed depressing to watch more closely. Arteezy charging up concoction although he should know Maybe has spin up on Jugg after Omni, self stunning, Puppey tunnel visioning the Jugg and somehow not noticing that Arteezy is about to get 5 second arrowed and not swapping him out. Then EE&PLD come in a bit too late to do anything after having to defend the base.
Though of course a lot could have gone differently before that (be it for EE or for anyone else really) but had Arteezy not stunned himself or had Puppey just swapped him out pretty sure Secret don't lose people there, and they may have even a chance to win a fight.
As far as the lineup goes, when Arteezy joined I was hopeful he would show himself to be capable of playing a truly versatile mid. But after the results didn't come in the beginning they just put him on 1 so doesn't seem likely that him and EE will continue in the same team. Not sure about the support pairing either. I really like PLD and think he can play on a very good team but I'm not sure if he is fully compatible with what Puppey needs. Neither of them has been consistent about making stuff happen early game imo. Though of course we've seen players seemingly struggle individually in teams that don't really work, but the support duo had some similar issues also with the w33&Misery lineup so it's not just specific to the recent teams.
Interesting to see what happens, after today it's possible to have OG, Alliance and TL all out of the competition and players would surely start having some talks.
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On August 10 2016 13:53 lolnoty wrote:
I think RTZ will leave becoming disillusioned with puppey. The reason Zai/rtz originally went to Secret was conflict with ppd + respect for s4. S4 drafted and shotcalled them to their long tournament streak in 2015. Came back to EG but the conflicts with ppd didn't end, chose to hope EE + puppey could work even if s4 is gone. Didn't work.
I think rtz/cr1t is one of the biggest chances for a team to form around. Cr1t is basically raised NA, played a TON in NA leagues and is friends with rtz/zai. I can even see zai leaving EG even if they're TI champs just a feeling, but especially if rtz/cr1t set out to make a team.
There's a large pool of offlaners available, moon might be up for grabs and maybe Moo if DC isn't a permanent team (how long does misery/reso/saksa/w33 want to stay in NA?). It'll be a very interesting post TI shuffle.
I don t think OG will change... and there are no more "good" captains out to swap around.
Rtz will stick to ppy they will change in other ways, I think kicking EE and Bulba+Aui will be their solution, maybe even pld.
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I'd be surprised if Secret doesn't get a complete disband, this lineup clearly doesn't work. EE + RTZ is a terrible idea, Bulba isn't on the level he needs to be to win championships, puppey has been a huge disappointment. PLD has for the most part played well tho
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on Facebook they discuss about that and most of them think EE is gonna kicked/leaved secret someone know something about that?
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On August 10 2016 21:49 Gamble28 wrote:on Facebook they discuss about that and most of them think EE is gonna kicked/leaved secret someone know something about that?
Secret classy as always
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Rofl, I had to check if that was a fake pic. I guess that's one way of getting people to speculate by Puppey.
It wouldn't surprise me if Puppey had 4 completely new players with him, hard to really say without knowing what sort of shuffles may happen elsewhere.
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On August 10 2016 22:04 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2016 21:49 Gamble28 wrote:on Facebook they discuss about that and most of them think EE is gonna kicked/leaved secret someone know something about that? Secret classy as always
i'm expecting a joke. Btw I guess I could be ok with that. 
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Secret has a bunch of weebs (Aui, Pie, EE) with Arteezy being the latest convert. I am expecting it to be EE as well, but you never know what happens to teams after TI.
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It's a hacker from a certain imageboard who took Puppey's password from the dev forum and it happened to fit his Facebook page as well. Puppey has a lot more class and deftness than posting things like that on Facebook.
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It was indeed a bit over the top
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that definitely looks fake, though there is almost 100% chance secret will shuffle heavily.
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lmao, his fb was hacked.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1VQN197.png)
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He also took a shit on "2k mmr Filipino monkeys"
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hmm okay then im sorry i posted it 9min after his first post and thought it was real but if his account is hacked this is shit :/
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After that ridiculous dance of chairs in the first half of this year I wouldn't put it past him lol
I really lost all respect for the man after that fiasco
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EPT
