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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
Though the entire group is in a weird state so let's see what happens today and tomorrow e: Well that DC series crowns the day. I think the group standings are such that Secret can make it to the top half with a 4-0 tomorrow but that seems like wishful thinking. Bo1s seem to be waiting | ||
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Danzo
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Racket
3023 Posts
On August 05 2016 15:05 Danzo wrote: I don't even know who to blame for Secret. EE had a horrible game. Puppy hasn't been doing well. Bulba and Arteezy are the only players that did well. W33 and Misery seem to be doing well... oh wait | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On August 05 2016 15:05 Danzo wrote: I don't even know who to blame for Secret. EE had a horrible game. Puppy hasn't been doing well. Bulba and Arteezy are the only players that did well. If I would blame something last game I would blame the call to go for more kills top lane when they had got a pickoff mid and I believe they didn't realize DC was going top with all their remaining heroes. Secret went there without Arteezy, saw only Moo or something with EE and wanted to go for the kill but instead lost 4 themselves. Iirc that was really when the game started to get out of Secret's hands. First game vs DC was just a god awful draft imo. I didn't see the EHOME and Fnatic games yet so idk about those. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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MXVI
Germany6 Posts
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mute20
Canada175 Posts
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Angeloidus
Russian Federation251 Posts
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
EE didnt seem too comfortable on the Slardar either, tho he didnt didnt really play bad. | ||
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
OK so DC systematically dismantled Secret by having vision on them all the time with BM and wards while Secret's supports were absolutely useless, w33 and Resolution baiting chronos from RTZ, very good swaps from Saksa (a few bad ones too), EE doing EE things and dying like stupid a few times. RTZ generally played very well, but some of his time walks were questionable leaving him exposed. Wouldn't call this a throw, simply outplayed. | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On August 05 2016 18:53 FreakyDroid wrote: Im watching the 2nd game vs DC, 30 min in they are leading 9 - 24 in kills, with nearly 16k net and exp advantage. And this is a game DC won? WTF, I guess I should prepare for the throw of their lives. OK so DC systematically dismantled Secret by having vision on them all the time with BM and wards while Secret's supports were absolutely useless, w33 and Resolution baiting chronos from RTZ, very good swaps from Saksa (a few bad ones too), EE doing EE things and dying like stupid a few times. RTZ generally played very well, but some of his time walks were questionable leaving him exposed. Wouldn't call this a throw, simply outplayed. Yea, they lost both aegises pretty much straight after getting rosh and didn't get much out of them so they never got to a point where they are threatening high ground or anything. Neither of those was some terrible misplay but rather DC being in the right place and Secret just not being completely prepared. And as far as I recall the key moment where the game sort of turned was when they got a pickoff on ET or Venge mid, they tried to go for more kills top without Arteezy when EE had an invis rune or Mirana ult on and he saw Moo or something, but then DC was all there behind the trees and the fight went very poorly and Secret lost 4. At a certain point when Morph is huge and DK has BKB etc. the game is very easy to play for DC and it's incredibly hard for Secret to pick people off or get a good fight even if they were still ahead in gold etc. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On August 05 2016 13:05 spudde123 wrote: Uh I see I woke up to a disaster of a day. Not a fan of this draft against DC at all so not looking great there either Though the entire group is in a weird state so let's see what happens today and tomorrow e: Well that DC series crowns the day. I think the group standings are such that Secret can make it to the top half with a 4-0 tomorrow but that seems like wishful thinking. Bo1s seem to be waiting In the same boat as my team. Best of luck to your team comrade. | ||
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Anamorph
236 Posts
I dont think an EE fan can deny that in any way. I m pretty sure they will drop bulba and EE, what would be a good decision - try to get at least zai for the offlane and someone else for the future to work with. Ppy really needs to rethink a lot of his decisions, the drop of w33 and misery is just one big question for me I would like to hear a reflect of ppy nowadays. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
On August 05 2016 20:43 Anamorph wrote: Ppy still not finding a way to enable rtz to shine, and I personally dont see how EE can get rated as a top carry. In this international the best can get compared and you can find EE on the buttom of that ladder. I dont think an EE fan can deny that in any way. I m pretty sure they will drop bulba and EE, what would be a good decision - try to get at least zai for the offlane and someone else for the future to work with. Ppy really needs to rethink a lot of his decisions, the drop of w33 and misery is just one big question for me I would like to hear a reflect of ppy nowadays. None of those roster changes will matter if ppy himself doesnt step down. He has been bad for a very long time and there's no indication that he will improve. What he is doing is NaVi 2014 all over again, bad drafts and noob plays. | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On August 05 2016 20:59 Shaella wrote: Honestly Bulba's been fine its just EE and Puppey are both failing. bulba is their best player , tbh fam /s artour is playing pretty solid , but this again feels like one of those classic artour TI team with much hype and no success and yes, as above guy said, puppey is actually playing the worst on the team..his drafts are as bad as fnatic drafts and he picks some weird supports for himself which he can't do anything with other than jungling. | ||
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t3rm1nal
Italy37 Posts
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
Like, I am not surprised that EE is doing poorly since he has to play a way he usually never does. RTZ still looks solid, but that also probably has something to do with him playing comfort picks and the rest just playing so poorly that he just looks good in comparison. With that said, I'm not sure switching things up will work either, maybe they are just destined for failure, but at this point, it's still probably worth trying. | ||
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