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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2015 14:21 GMT
#1521
Painful loss vs NiP who always manage to beat em
Gonna be tense as fuck against Liquid.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
October 12 2015 15:24 GMT
#1522
If they don't qualify (which isnlooking unlikely now) I think S4, Bulldog and Mynuts should break off and form a new team. They showed in this qualifier they have potential but they really need a better carry.
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 15:36:44
October 12 2015 15:35 GMT
#1523
On October 13 2015 00:24 sweetkay wrote:
If they don't qualify (which isnlooking unlikely now) I think S4, Bulldog and Mynuts should break off and form a new team. They showed in this qualifier they have potential but they really need a better carry.


Well, in my opinion Loda finally started to carry some games during the past few days even if there were mistakes. I see a huge improvement between now and before ti15 when he was not able to provide any solid play.
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
October 12 2015 15:49 GMT
#1524
On October 13 2015 00:35 HeYmaney wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 00:24 sweetkay wrote:
If they don't qualify (which isnlooking unlikely now) I think S4, Bulldog and Mynuts should break off and form a new team. They showed in this qualifier they have potential but they really need a better carry.


Well, in my opinion Loda finally started to carry some games during the past few days even if there were mistakes. I see a huge improvement between now and before ti15 when he was not able to provide any solid play.


True, they show great improvement but will it be enough to compete at the highest levels of dota again. I highly doubt it but they have shown they are definetely a tier1 team. Fans just have higher expectations from a TI winning team I guess.
SibChil
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden502 Posts
October 12 2015 16:31 GMT
#1525
It would be far too soon to abandon something that has actually shown promise these last couple of weeks. Even if they fall out of the qualifier they have climbed out of the gutters. It wasn't long ago that Alliance looked on par with Na'Vi, at the bottom of the barrel. Now they show signs of brilliance even though the throws are still a bit too common.
Favourite players: Jaedong, DRG, Coca, Snute, Grubby, Keen, Baby | GoGo [A]lliance
sweetkay
Profile Joined January 2015
206 Posts
October 12 2015 17:42 GMT
#1526
Think they're kinda forced to shuffle between the majors though. That's when players are available.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 12 2015 17:59 GMT
#1527
What a series vs Liquid!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
October 12 2015 18:01 GMT
#1528
No doubt , i missed most of it but ill gladly watch the replays now
Mutineer
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand179 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-12 18:10:07
October 12 2015 18:07 GMT
#1529
I saw death by treeants from buldog on stream like 1/2 year ago, never believed i see it in pro match. And really banning buldog heroes seems to be standard practice for opposite team. Doom + broo banned every game now in first stage.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
October 12 2015 18:07 GMT
#1530
Admiral R[A]T! He is truly the master of all RATS!
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
MonkeyLarry
Profile Joined June 2011
United States60 Posts
October 12 2015 18:25 GMT
#1531
Rat doto at it's finest.
Grubby TLO WhiteRa Snute Bunny | Liquid, Alliance, Na'Vi, EG, OG
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
October 12 2015 18:28 GMT
#1532
I was on the train back home from work and could just read updates on the games by liquiddota and other forums... i was completely going mad, i can't suffer so much for this team, but what a big heart that our boys have, i'm so proud, i hope they can do one more last step to achieve this important result when everybody didn't give a cent to them... such a big heart, i love these boys, LONG LIVE A!! I'll watch the series against Liquid as soon as possible :°)
The Real Power~
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
October 12 2015 18:32 GMT
#1533
good win, I wouldn't call it a good game, but definitely a very good win, now then I can't wait to see who they will get as the last boss, I can't say I'm too fond of NiP or MB tbh
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 12 2015 18:33 GMT
#1534
For Alliance, I always said that the problem isn't on Loda being bad. It is about them not having any playmakers. Loda + Akke + Bulldog (except on NP) are not good at making plays. Pajkatt then absorbed all the farm but doesn't do anything with it. 7ckngmad can't make all the plays in his position (although he feeds a lot while doing so). It's no wonder that 2014/15 Alliance were always behind in game.

With s4 though, they have a player that does well in his lane, and can translate that farm into plays. Mynuts is still not a good fit because his playstyle is reactive. Bulldog is benefiting from Brood being relevant, a hero that by concept is a natural space creator. So now Loda finally has space to carry, with good backup support from his mid and offlane.
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
October 12 2015 18:51 GMT
#1535
Those games made me have 3 hearth attacks. I would'nt bet my money on them though :-). Hope they can perform well against whoever tomorrow. One more bo3 !
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
October 12 2015 20:58 GMT
#1536
On October 13 2015 03:33 DucK- wrote:
For Alliance, I always said that the problem isn't on Loda being bad. It is about them not having any playmakers. Loda + Akke + Bulldog (except on NP) are not good at making plays. Pajkatt then absorbed all the farm but doesn't do anything with it. 7ckngmad can't make all the plays in his position (although he feeds a lot while doing so). It's no wonder that 2014/15 Alliance were always behind in game.

With s4 though, they have a player that does well in his lane, and can translate that farm into plays. Mynuts is still not a good fit because his playstyle is reactive. Bulldog is benefiting from Brood being relevant, a hero that by concept is a natural space creator. So now Loda finally has space to carry, with good backup support from his mid and offlane.


I agree about a lot of the things you say, but Mynuts has a few heroes that he actually dares to play aggressively with, mostly Tusk and ES but he's showing signs of hope on heroes like Night Stalker and Ogre Magi. Tusk however has to be his standout hero at the moment. It's the only hero he's making big plays with right now and manages to make an impact with in the early game.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 12 2015 22:43 GMT
#1537
Super well played by Alliance vs Liquid, that game 3 was fucking nuts.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
chairs
Profile Joined June 2015
Singapore120 Posts
October 12 2015 23:05 GMT
#1538
Bulldog once said on stream, you go NP aghs octarine refresher when you're ahead and so that the opponent can't leave their base. showcased it beautifully, treants everywheere!
unsaeglich
Profile Joined June 2015
260 Posts
October 13 2015 08:01 GMT
#1539
I enjoy watching Alliance play. Loda has such a giant hero pool, that's always cool to see him pick some underused carry. S4 playing NS mid is just insanely cool. I really hope to see them in Frankfurt.
dardoz
Profile Joined June 2011
Ireland26 Posts
October 13 2015 09:26 GMT
#1540
So glad A are showing signs of a resurgence. I've really missed the diversity of having some Rat DOTA, at least as a strategic option. It get's boring watching the same timing based team fights over and over again.
UT > Q > SC2??
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