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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 10 2016 20:26 GMT
#3901
Loda IS alliance pretty much...

And we know how Bulldog will react, wouldn't be surprised if he starts just dicking about on stream and quite progaming
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 10 2016 20:28 GMT
#3902
S4 is not the same player anymore , he is way too hit and miss , G2 is ALL on him , he gave Fnatic kills he never shouldve , he died needlessly 3 times on a lineup that threads on the edge as it is , Losing their Bo3 2-0,2-0 sums it up , they are not good enough to win a Valve event anymore , sure they can beat any team but just not consistently enough to get the big prize , OG crushed out of this TI but i have confidence in them to bounce back and win a Major , Alliance dont have it in them anymore , gl to the boyz in everything they do , really special kids and team but in the end of the day i cant expect them to keep on while losing just for me to have fun , Dota is a brutal game if you cant make a profit out of it better get a real carrer and move on , part of me want them to try again , but the mature part says its time to hang them up as a team , like i would say to my fav boxer Manny Pac , hang them up , its over no need to carry on.
Zexion
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden971 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 20:30:52
August 10 2016 20:29 GMT
#3903
I might sound like a hater now (to my defense, the main event has been really disappointing) but seriously, what does Loda even bring to the team? He's decent at most, but in the majority of their games he's just underfarmed and gets picked off too often. In my opinion (for what it's worth) Loda's retirement is long overdue, which means Akke who doesn't seem too comfortable in this meta) will go as well. Will there be a shuffle or a complete disband?

s4 has his moments but tilts way too much. He/they also really have to work on their drafts. They can't adapt at all...
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
August 10 2016 20:31 GMT
#3904
I actually thought s4 was really impressive during the whole tournament (at least the games I watched), except for this one.. I also start to really dislike NP, the hero seems so utterly worthless when shits actually going down.
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
August 10 2016 20:31 GMT
#3905
I think the most important question to ask is what does Amazon get from sponsoring Alliance? Alliance doesn't win that often, but they are of course still one of the biggest names in pro Dota. Perhaps being a big name is enough for them to keep their sponsorship
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 10 2016 20:33 GMT
#3906
On August 11 2016 05:29 Zexion wrote:
I might sound like a hater now (to my defense, the main event has been really disappointing) but seriously, what does Loda even bring to the team? He's decent at most, but in the majority of their games he's just underfarmed and gets picked off too often. In my opinion (for what it's worth) Loda's retirement is long overdue, which means Akke who doesn't seem too comfortable in this meta) will go as well. Will there be a shuffle or a complete disband?

s4 has his moments but tilts way too much. He/they also really have to work on their drafts. They can't adapt at all...

Loda is the guy that holds Alliance together though and always has, I don't see the team continuing without him
Alliance=Loda
So if that's the case then Disband is coming
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 10 2016 20:33 GMT
#3907
The Real Power~
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
August 10 2016 20:37 GMT
#3908
On August 11 2016 05:29 Zexion wrote:
I might sound like a hater now (to my defense, the main event has been really disappointing) but seriously, what does Loda even bring to the team? He's decent at most, but in the majority of their games he's just underfarmed and gets picked off too often. In my opinion (for what it's worth) Loda's retirement is long overdue, which means Akke who doesn't seem too comfortable in this meta) will go as well. Will there be a shuffle or a complete disband?

s4 has his moments but tilts way too much. He/they also really have to work on their drafts. They can't adapt at all...

alex garfield kept fear 7 years , even let fear tested teams with SADBOYS, also the arm injury.
so we know what outcome to loda.

loda is alliance same as EG is fear , but can loda step aside to make a better team and result for the organization? i dont know the answer
6nnn
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 20:43:10
August 10 2016 20:38 GMT
#3909
s4 for sure lost g2 of the series... but he carried the team hard to get in the upper bracket.
Guys, i dunno if u remembered where we were without s4, he's an almost 9k player, for sure the best of the team skill-wise.
I dunno prolly, it's too hard to be in the same time the mid player and the captain, maybe he should switch to support role, and take Pajkatt mid? I think he can play with much less pressure from support.
I love Akke, but dunno, time passes for everyone
The Real Power~
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
August 10 2016 20:40 GMT
#3910
He's a good pub player, but when the going gets tough he seems to choke an awful lot. He doesn't seem to have a very strong mental game
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
August 10 2016 20:46 GMT
#3911
Hope we can bounce back and stick together as a team. Requires a lot of hard effort and practice, though. They need motivation. We'll see if our boys have what it takes to continue
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 10 2016 20:56 GMT
#3912
Tesgah :D, where did u go, i missed ur posts
The Real Power~
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 21:11:40
August 10 2016 21:06 GMT
#3913
basic mid 101 is to have the utmost respect for your limits
forgetting this is forgetting how to win
no amount of game sense and technical brilliance will help you win if you feed it away with equal amounts of carelessness
its painful to see a pro go down like that

his timber play yesterday was inspiring!
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 10 2016 21:10 GMT
#3914
On August 11 2016 05:46 Tesgah wrote:
Hope we can bounce back and stick together as a team. Requires a lot of hard effort and practice, though. They need motivation. We'll see if our boys have what it takes to continue


For them to be succesful they need to be Dota 2 pro players 24/7 , i think at least Akke and Loda are 9-5 kind of players and 24/7 before a big event ,its not enough at the top tier level , we dont have a sumail , we dont have a miracle , we have 5 great players , but not one of them (S4 does but very rarely) just take over a game alone.
We are the epitome of a team , we win together and die together , G2 for example with the lead we had other teams (MVP for example) wouldve roll the game without trouble even if QO was feeding) we cant , we need all 5 to click and play their best dota to be competitive.

Lets hope they stay together for the next Major , but i wont be mad (just sad) if they call it quits.
LETS GO ONE MORE TIME BOYZ , TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!
MonkeyLarry
Profile Joined June 2011
United States60 Posts
August 10 2016 21:14 GMT
#3915
They did as I thought they would so I'm not too surprised. They did more in the groups than I expected, but unfortunately being in the upper bracket had zero benefit besides making them some more money. My heart is disappointed, but my head isn't.

TNC fighting!
Grubby TLO WhiteRa Snute Bunny | Liquid, Alliance, Na'Vi, EG, OG
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 10 2016 21:38 GMT
#3916
On August 11 2016 06:10 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2016 05:46 Tesgah wrote:
Hope we can bounce back and stick together as a team. Requires a lot of hard effort and practice, though. They need motivation. We'll see if our boys have what it takes to continue


For them to be succesful they need to be Dota 2 pro players 24/7 , i think at least Akke and Loda are 9-5 kind of players and 24/7 before a big event ,its not enough at the top tier level , we dont have a sumail , we dont have a miracle , we have 5 great players , but not one of them (S4 does but very rarely) just take over a game alone.
We are the epitome of a team , we win together and die together , G2 for example with the lead we had other teams (MVP for example) wouldve roll the game without trouble even if QO was feeding) we cant , we need all 5 to click and play their best dota to be competitive.

Lets hope they stay together for the next Major , but i wont be mad (just sad) if they call it quits.
LETS GO ONE MORE TIME BOYZ , TO HELL AND BACK!!!!!


Yea, i'm already back for new journeys with the boys tbh, hope they won't disband... i mean, look, at the end of the day if Liquid loses next game, EU as a whole kinda sucked this TI :p
The Real Power~
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
August 10 2016 21:41 GMT
#3917
On August 11 2016 05:26 amiGo_O wrote:
really sad to see them to go out like that
EGM, Akke amazing game, AB, Loda nothing special but not too bad
s4 second TI in a row he has been reason his team lost

I feel this is end of Alliance


Im sure we re watching different games.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
August 10 2016 21:52 GMT
#3918
On August 11 2016 05:26 LemOn wrote:

And we know how Bulldog will react, wouldn't be surprised if he starts just dicking about on stream and quite progaming


He could just re post this?:

NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
August 11 2016 05:38 GMT
#3919
Well at the end of the day they still won close to 1 million dollars since December 2015, which is imo way enough to live even with cuts. I wouldn't be that surprised if they stick together at least until the end of the year.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-11 07:21:23
August 11 2016 07:15 GMT
#3920
Im really curious what alliance will do now. It's pretty obvious, that the team doesnt work out. They had more then enough time to fix their problems, change things up, or try new stuff. But from what i mostly saw, they were more focused playing Pub games with some girls. Thats not how you win high level games. Dont get me wrong, this is not a hate Post, i really wanted liquid vs alliance in the LB.
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