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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 09:10:27
August 10 2016 09:02 GMT
#3861
Alright!
New day, new match.

What can we expect from Fnatic?
What heroes do they like?
What kind of style do we play to put them out of their comfort zone?

We're not out of this yet!

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Edit: I see they pick a lot of Batrider!
They also seem to like Shadow Demon (62 % winrate) and Riki (50 % winrate).
They've also played a lot of Timbersaw but lost most games on it.

They've won 3/4 on Mirana and every game they've gotten Nyx Assassin.
Last month they've played 7 Nyx games with 85 % winrate

They've played alch 4 times (50 % winrate) and Slark 3 times (66 % winrate).
Curiously they've played Invoker 4 times and lost all 4.

That's the result of a 5 minute Dotabuff sweep. Anything else in particular to look out for?
I've seen very few of their games. What style do they generally look to play?
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
August 10 2016 09:14 GMT
#3862
On August 10 2016 16:28 hifriend wrote:
Sad games, they just look terrified.. Drow strat with no pushes. No smokes or aggressive moves at all. They basically played dota on 1/4th of the map. And don't like the radiant pick, they don't play it as well and their ability to rosh is bad to begin with..


They way they play drow does not work.
They dont push early and they give a lot of space and farm to the offlane which results in no space making for drow at all.
Loda finding farm was quiet difficult.
If they really want to stay with drow picks, they should study other teams that perform good with.

Alliance should go for aggro trilanes, they re good with, and they should stop playing batrider mid, it sets pressure to loda and bulldog being the real core and loda performs not that good the last months.
Bulldog really looks stable, he always finds farm and got super efficient item timings, but they cant get a lot out of it, as long as their safelane gets no timing for the game.
Angeloidus
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation251 Posts
August 10 2016 10:10 GMT
#3863
[A] take my energy pls!
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 10 2016 13:01 GMT
#3864
Dong's interview:

The Real Power~
spacecoke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden112 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 14:15:32
August 10 2016 14:14 GMT
#3865
EHOME used SK as a hero that pretty much controlled the mid game tempo with an ulti that has AOE so their late game carries (mirana and sven) had an easy time in number game 2.

I suggest Alliance do something similar. Magnus, tide, SK, venomancer, DP or OD (Or even visage mid, super strong but rarely used) on s4 for that AOE damage mid game they need so Loda and Admiral Bulldog can go late.

An maybe stop picking ogre and get warlock or riki instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrCWmQZqPT4
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 15:34:57
August 10 2016 15:33 GMT
#3866
On August 10 2016 23:14 spacecoke wrote:
EHOME used SK as a hero that pretty much controlled the mid game tempo with an ulti that has AOE so their late game carries (mirana and sven) had an easy time in number game 2.

I suggest Alliance do something similar. Magnus, tide, SK, venomancer, DP or OD (Or even visage mid, super strong but rarely used) on s4 for that AOE damage mid game they need so Loda and Admiral Bulldog can go late.

An maybe stop picking ogre and get warlock or riki instead.

You really think it's wise to completely 180° their picks in the middle of the biggest tournament of the year?
I would maybe agree if they were up against EHOME again where normal play apparently doesn't work.

But against Fnatic? No, then they're way better off playing the style they've practised the past few months, perhaps with a few (!) tweaks.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
August 10 2016 18:42 GMT
#3867
can't we ban this sd ?????
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
August 10 2016 19:05 GMT
#3868
they look like yesterday, playing pussy dota, pick early combo do nothing let sven farm. Am so sad, i can't take this anymore, guess i won't watch game2.
kla3
Profile Joined August 2016
Norway3 Posts
August 10 2016 19:05 GMT
#3869
They don't play dota these last 3 games, just defending themselves into losses... Most passive and boring games ever, no cajones at all :/

Hope they wake up and actually start playing DOTA.
spacecoke
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden112 Posts
August 10 2016 19:08 GMT
#3870
So they did pick tide for mid game control but chickened out when sven was split pushing. Should have put even more pressure right away after getting tier 2 bottom tower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrCWmQZqPT4
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 10 2016 19:17 GMT
#3871
Comfort picks time now?
I am dissapoint
hoping for curveballs
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-10 19:57:04
August 10 2016 19:37 GMT
#3872
it seems to be working though

edit: or maybe not, this is way closer than it should be oO
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
August 10 2016 20:02 GMT
#3873
Alliance are back to the dumpster
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 10 2016 20:03 GMT
#3874
Utter fucking trash jesus
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
August 10 2016 20:03 GMT
#3875
Ah shiet we suck
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
August 10 2016 20:04 GMT
#3876
Comfortable picks, awesome start, and disappointment :-(
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 10 2016 20:04 GMT
#3877
s4
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
August 10 2016 20:05 GMT
#3878
It's time to give up boys. Please don't go on. RIP Alliance..
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 10 2016 20:05 GMT
#3879
I think that was the last time we will see Alliance in that form.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
kla3
Profile Joined August 2016
Norway3 Posts
August 10 2016 20:06 GMT
#3880
atleast this game they tried to actually play DOTA, just not good enough :/
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