Na`Vi Discussion - Page 54

On January 12 2015 00:27 FHDH wrote:
That's really all he needs to do for his part as well. There are better carries out there but he is fine at his position if he stops doing XBOCT things.

On January 12 2015 07:02 Salazarz wrote:


His farming is, as it pretty much always been, on par with world's bests and it really showed in the DAC qualifiers. Even in games where Na'Vi had been losing early game hard (which is like most of them, lol) he's been sitting at the top of networth 15-20 mins in, and just kept grinding away a bigger and bigger lead over the oppositions' cores despite having much less vision and space to do so. I kind of feel like Na'Vi would do well to draft stuff like Spectre or AM more often for him really, since his ability to find farm is pretty much unmatched amongst Western teams.

On January 12 2015 08:28 FHDH wrote:
Pointless to try and take XBOCT's skill at farming from him, even Na'Vi haters know it is one of his strengths. Definitely need to draft around it though. 4P1 has been working for VPp, maybe it can work for Na'Vi. I don't like it, but I can live with it if they stop being so fucking embarrassing.

Not going to be satisfied until Dendi is playing for a world-class team again though. So it's possible temporary reprieve from awfulness is counterproductive to that end. We'll see.

On January 12 2015 22:53 FuzzyJAM wrote:

Is that just because you like Dendi or because you think he's better than his teammates?

Dendi was once arguably the best player in the world and he's still good, but by pro standards he's nothing incredible currently. In my view, in the European scene Resolution and s4 are better, but whatever exact ranking you go by there are a bunch of mids around his level. Na'Vi are almost certainly worse than two European teams right now (C9 and Secret) and in the mix with VPP, VP, Empire, HR, Alliance and PR. In the past 6 months, I don't think Dendi has shown himself to be far above the average for mids on those teams - I mean, if I had to pick Fata or Dendi, I'd pick Dendi, but it's not like I'd expect much difference.

Or maybe you think Dendi is just playing acceptably rather than brilliantly at the moment because his team is bad and he's unmotivated and with better teammates he'd excel, which (though I disagree) I guess is a reasonable position.

On January 13 2015 00:21 Alcor wrote:


Can you tell us the last time you saw dendi lose mid lane against one of the "tier 2" european teams? i don't remember a single episode in the past few months to be honest...

Dendi won't be the player he was some time ago, but to say that there are a bunch of players like him it's an objective understatement.
Imho, atm you can't estimate Dendi's ability based on what happens after the laning stage, because the team has serious coordination issues.

On January 13 2015 03:10 bagels21 wrote:


Well if you count HR and Empire, he's lost mid before to them, but on topic, Dendi is still probably at top 5 mid in the west, but as many have stated, the skill gap has closed and Na'Vi defining advantages (drafting, flexibility, and teamfighting) either don't exist, or have shrank dramatically. Na'Vi still wins games with the huge teamfight ults, but often times you see them do that shit they did against PR yesterday lol

On January 14 2015 04:54 Tephus wrote:
I feel like DAC (and I guess Starladder now) is now or never for the current Navi squad. They seem to be playing with a bit more fire than usual, and there was that ZeroGrav statement about the team needing to perform by around now.

Also of note: Currently not in Dotapit 3 (one TBA slot still available for europe) and not in the Weplay season 3 retry.