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Gevna
France2332 Posts
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Racket
3023 Posts
On August 02 2015 01:03 Gevna wrote: https://youtu.be/rCFA0FF5FZY Well, in this one he specifically said that their strat goes up to 15 minutes and then is every man for himself... So, one thing we nailed. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
It's always iffy to extrapolate too much from these things, but I feel xboct does come off like a pretty big diva in this interview. | ||
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Forgottenfrog
United States1268 Posts
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Racket
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Koromon
United States304 Posts
On August 02 2015 02:40 Orome wrote: Generally not a big fan of her English interviews, but damn, that interviewer is a god in Russian. It's always iffy to extrapolate too much from these things, but I feel xboct does come off like a pretty big diva in this interview. This might be one of the first xboct interviews I've heard... and the normal sentiment towards xboct does seem like that but I think he's quite aware of his own actions. His comments about the mistake of being in Kiev was pretty much him owning up to his own personal shortcomings towards the team's boot camping. Also I think xboct also pretty much owning up to the previous captains not having 'respect.' He wasn't calling out anything the previous captains may have lacked (skill/determination wise), but more of something the rest of the team simply wasn't giving. I think to a certain extent that you could say even he's a bit "burned out." I'll admit that I've never done something at as high a level as his Dota, but the mentality of whether to continue depending on winning or losing seems a bit... questionable. I don't think the team will magically "play better" (yes Na'vi does have a history of making magic happen), but all in all, I feel like the desire to improve is playing second fiddle to winning. He does talk about majors being that spiritual motivation, and perhaps personal/team improvement is the mental motivation and I'm just talking even more out of my ass. | ||
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
On August 04 2015 00:29 Koromon wrote: Also I think xboct also pretty much owning up to the previous captains not having 'respect.' He wasn't calling out anything the previous captains may have lacked (skill/determination wise), but more of something the rest of the team simply wasn't giving. That was an inaccurate translation, he said that previous captains lacked "authority", not "respect". So yeah, you are right that it was about players not having enough faith in their captain, rather than him lacking some qualities. | ||
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Racket
3023 Posts
On August 04 2015 02:27 MyrMindservant wrote: That was an inaccurate translation, he said that previous captains lacked "authority", not "respect". So yeah, you are right that it was about players not having enough faith in their captain, rather than him lacking some qualities. Thanks, that sounded really weird as I read the interview, I thought of something like it but confirming it is a good thing. Who would you ban for this Bo1 if you were NaVi? I would ban for sure BH, NS and Dazzle, should think harder for the last two. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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elagrion
Ukraine422 Posts
On August 04 2015 00:29 Koromon wrote: This might be one of the first xboct interviews I've heard... and the normal sentiment towards xboct does seem like that but I think he's quite aware of his own actions. His comments about the mistake of being in Kiev was pretty much him owning up to his own personal shortcomings towards the team's boot camping. Also I think xboct also pretty much owning up to the previous captains not having 'respect.' He wasn't calling out anything the previous captains may have lacked (skill/determination wise), but more of something the rest of the team simply wasn't giving. I think to a certain extent that you could say even he's a bit "burned out." I'll admit that I've never done something at as high a level as his Dota, but the mentality of whether to continue depending on winning or losing seems a bit... questionable. I don't think the team will magically "play better" (yes Na'vi does have a history of making magic happen), but all in all, I feel like the desire to improve is playing second fiddle to winning. He does talk about majors being that spiritual motivation, and perhaps personal/team improvement is the mental motivation and I'm just talking even more out of my ass. XBOCT is usually very self-aware person. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On August 04 2015 04:30 FHDH wrote: Spirit Breaker has been a real terror for them. Yep. 2nd ban could be anything. I'd rate dazzle or bounty the best choice for that spot. One ban has to go on the space cow. Easily the one that navi seems to have the most problems with. | ||
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Racket
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MyrMindservant
695 Posts
At least they played relatively well, but it's still sad. People like to say that Na'Vi have a lot of tournament experience, etc, but I think that they lost it because of the nerves. | ||
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
Also Funn1k was DAC-level bad again. Sad, cus it really looked like Na'Vi could have done it all the way until the end... kind of like many of their group stage losses, I guess -_- | ||
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MyrMindservant
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caiovigg
Brazil1802 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On August 04 2015 13:40 Salazarz wrote: They 100% lost it because of Dendi's item choices. With everything else in the game being the same, had Dendi bought a refresher instead of the random pb followed by blink+travels with 2k+ in bank, he had a 10+ minute window where he would be able to instantly kill any of the 3 VG's cores and AM would have been more than enough to clean up the rest. Also Funn1k was DAC-level bad again. Sad, cus it really looked like Na'Vi could have done it all the way until the end... kind of like many of their group stage losses, I guess -_- They did look like they could get that win, and for the most part they weren't embarrassed this TI, considering how they looked all year, this is a better result then many would of predicted. Still sad for the loss but if they can keep up motivation I think they can improve more for the upcoming majors. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
I like all the guys and always hope for problems/whatever to be solved but this time I expect one or two of the older players to leave. Navis cs squad improved a lot when they acquired flamie, guardian and seized over the years and zerogravity might have that in mind when looking at the squad in preparation for the upcoming majors. | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
The game was on Hvost's support. Ya he did die with some awful timing but he made so much space that the rest of his team did NOTHING with. Dendi bought BoTs, then sat in trees (?) Artstyle gave away Weave multiple times, for no reason when he was going to die anyway. (And being out of position, alone. W/ no wards even.) Funn1k died early but he was too far behind w/o any help. Hvost and Sonniko was the only saving grace for them and there was 0 chance Hvost was going to out carry Luna/SF/QoP. | ||
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