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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
February 09 2015 15:21 GMT
#541
On February 10 2015 00:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
I didn't always believe but here we are
<3


told ya Sn0_Man
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 15:37:50
February 09 2015 15:37 GMT
#542


took too long

this is a quote
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 15:44:59
February 09 2015 15:44 GMT
#543
On February 10 2015 00:03 Furikawari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 23:57 goody153 wrote:
btw suma1l stats are fucking ridiculous

has the most deaths for the first 5 minutes of the match and he has the second most kills in 6-10 minute mark of the match

all in one match rofl (game 3 grand finals)


First part is due to VG's plan, second part is dat kid's skill... Overall the whole team performed so well, from draft to execution, I hope they can keep this going for at least 6 months (altough, PPD, less salt plz, u deserve better).


VG did well with their early roams on Sumail, but they really gave a bunch of those kills away for free with absolutely terrible engagements or positioning on their heroes. There was the 4 man push from VG mid, where instead of being happy with taking the tower they try to engage, icex3 gets completely caught out (Sumail gets the kill), then Fy tries to help or something and runs in to die himself to the Storm (at this point Sumail dies but doesn't lose any gold), and then Super and Fenrir try to help and die themselves. Shortly after reviving Fy then uses a tp to go farm bottom lane in vision, and the Storm revives shortly after and proceeds to take the free kill from the Shaman. I don't know what Fy was expecting to happen. Some time later again VG is looking for a fight, gets into an awkward position near Dire ancients and icex3 is completely isolated and Sumail gets the kill. Then in between Sumail had a few nice rotations I think where he got the Shaman and the TB killed, and then there was the big teamfight bottom where EG wiped VG and Sumail got credit for a few of those kills.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
February 09 2015 16:12 GMT
#544
booo no drama

this is a quote
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
February 09 2015 16:13 GMT
#545
Sumail's play during the tournament was amazing, but I particularly loved his winner interview.

Chinese Interviewer: "Lots of Chinese kids play dota at a young age, what advice would you give them to become as good as you?"

Sumail: "Ah, work hard and play a lot I guess. Its hard to be as good as me though."



Loved the attitude and fearlessness to be so cocky in front of a large crowd at a foreign event!
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
February 09 2015 16:25 GMT
#546
On February 10 2015 01:12 goody153 wrote:
booo no drama

https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/564817518842220545


lmao at bone7
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 16:30:30
February 09 2015 16:30 GMT
#547


oh god Kawaii_1000 browsed liquiddota
this is a quote
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
February 09 2015 18:31 GMT
#548
Could anyone give me a breakdown of Suma1l's history into Dota? I watched his interview, and it seemed like he started playing when he was in Pakistan.

Was he even trying to go pro back then? By himself, in Pakistan, with no team? Which server did he play on?

And his family's move to US is related to his Dota career or not? How quickly did he get noticed in NA?
Best or nothing.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 18:41:09
February 09 2015 18:39 GMT
#549
I think you greatly over-ascribe things in sumails life to dota
he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries.

in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend.
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
February 09 2015 18:59 GMT
#550
On February 10 2015 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think you greatly over-ascribe things in sumails life to dota
he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries.

in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend.


well like Arteezy he was rank 1 in NEL which does mean something. Tralf, him, and Yawar(his brother) were on one team together and they played officials/did decently well.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 09 2015 19:01 GMT
#551
well yes, when he played enough NEL and got noticed it was in fact because he was really fucking good otherwise you wouldn't see EG picking him up over the multitudinous other mid players available in NA.
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
February 09 2015 19:10 GMT
#552
On February 10 2015 04:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
well yes, when he played enough NEL and got noticed it was in fact because he was really fucking good otherwise you wouldn't see EG picking him up over the multitudinous other mid players available in NA.


of course lol, I just think it's important to point out he did play some officials and that NEL actually means something to the NA pros
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
February 09 2015 19:39 GMT
#553
That is such a depressing picture of Arteezy rofl
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
February 09 2015 19:51 GMT
#554
On February 10 2015 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think you greatly over-ascribe things in sumails life to dota
he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries.

in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend.


This kinda makes his skills more impressive actually. I thought that he's this good because he started playing very early and dedicated a lot to it. But it seems like Dota is just something that he plays, to which he only commits fully once he came to the US not a long time ago.

So basically he has at most 2 years worth of playing full time, and yet he is this good.
Best or nothing.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 09 2015 19:54 GMT
#555
On February 10 2015 04:51 Quochobao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think you greatly over-ascribe things in sumails life to dota
he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries.

in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend.


This kinda makes his skills more impressive actually. I thought that he's this good because he started playing very early and dedicated a lot to it. But it seems like Dota is just something that he plays, to which he only commits fully once he came to the US not a long time ago.

So basically he has at most 2 years worth of playing full time, and yet he is this good.

He said in his interview that he started playing the game heavily after TI1, so it's been 3 years. And started playing the game casually when he was 7.

He probably has more DotA experience than most people on this board.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Greenstripe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States164 Posts
February 09 2015 20:04 GMT
#556
On January 07 2015 09:33 Greenstripe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2015 09:19 Churrass wrote:
On January 07 2015 07:06 Greenstripe wrote:
On January 07 2015 06:53 Churrass wrote:
On January 06 2015 13:57 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
Never thought Arteezy was that important for EG.


arteezy is incredible underrated these days


Overrated*


yeah, you can comeback here when arteezy is helping secret win their first lans and eg is lost like cockroaches


Let's make a pact to both come back in 2 months and congratulate me on being right


It's only been one month, but....
widdox
Profile Joined August 2011
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-09 20:08:46
February 09 2015 20:07 GMT
#557


http://walizahid.com/2015/02/pakistani-15-becomes-dota-2-world-champ/

Evidently he played with a Ex-Dota 1 pro in Pakistan.
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
February 09 2015 20:12 GMT
#558
On February 10 2015 04:54 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2015 04:51 Quochobao wrote:
On February 10 2015 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
I think you greatly over-ascribe things in sumails life to dota
he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries.

in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend.


This kinda makes his skills more impressive actually. I thought that he's this good because he started playing very early and dedicated a lot to it. But it seems like Dota is just something that he plays, to which he only commits fully once he came to the US not a long time ago.

So basically he has at most 2 years worth of playing full time, and yet he is this good.

He said in his interview that he started playing the game heavily after TI1, so it's been 3 years. And started playing the game casually when he was 7.

He probably has more DotA experience than most people on this board.


I mean there are plenty of people (myself included) who played Dota 1 until now. And I still suck balls :D
Best or nothing.
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
February 09 2015 20:17 GMT
#559
On February 10 2015 05:07 widdox wrote:
https://twitter.com/shujaatazeem/status/564752053876957184

http://walizahid.com/2015/02/pakistani-15-becomes-dota-2-world-champ/

Evidently he played with a Ex-Dota 1 pro in Pakistan.


Wow, I did not know that Dota is also big in Pakistan.
Best or nothing.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 09 2015 22:42 GMT
#560
On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing.


I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool


Fear was a fucking amazing mid. Hell he won a 1 v 1 mid tournament before he was even playing mid for EG. He played some amazing puck and brewmaster games. He is a legend for a reason.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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