EPTOn February 10 2015 00:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
I didn't always believe but here we are
<3
I didn't always believe but here we are
<3
told ya Sn0_Man
Evil Geniuses Discussion - Page 28
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
told ya Sn0_Man | ||
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goody153
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took too long | ||
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spudde123
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On February 10 2015 00:03 Furikawari wrote: First part is due to VG's plan, second part is dat kid's skill... Overall the whole team performed so well, from draft to execution, I hope they can keep this going for at least 6 months (altough, PPD, less salt plz, u deserve better). VG did well with their early roams on Sumail, but they really gave a bunch of those kills away for free with absolutely terrible engagements or positioning on their heroes. There was the 4 man push from VG mid, where instead of being happy with taking the tower they try to engage, icex3 gets completely caught out (Sumail gets the kill), then Fy tries to help or something and runs in to die himself to the Storm (at this point Sumail dies but doesn't lose any gold), and then Super and Fenrir try to help and die themselves. Shortly after reviving Fy then uses a tp to go farm bottom lane in vision, and the Storm revives shortly after and proceeds to take the free kill from the Shaman. I don't know what Fy was expecting to happen. Some time later again VG is looking for a fight, gets into an awkward position near Dire ancients and icex3 is completely isolated and Sumail gets the kill. Then in between Sumail had a few nice rotations I think where he got the Shaman and the TB killed, and then there was the big teamfight bottom where EG wiped VG and Sumail got credit for a few of those kills. | ||
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goody153
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StarMoon
Canada682 Posts
Chinese Interviewer: "Lots of Chinese kids play dota at a young age, what advice would you give them to become as good as you?" Sumail: "Ah, work hard and play a lot I guess. Its hard to be as good as me though." Loved the attitude and fearlessness to be so cocky in front of a large crowd at a foreign event!  | ||
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On February 10 2015 01:12 goody153 wrote: booo no drama https://twitter.com/Arteezy/status/564817518842220545 lmao at bone7 | ||
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goody153
44263 Posts
oh god Kawaii_1000 browsed liquiddota | ||
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Quochobao
United States350 Posts
Was he even trying to go pro back then? By himself, in Pakistan, with no team? Which server did he play on? And his family's move to US is related to his Dota career or not? How quickly did he get noticed in NA? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries. in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend. | ||
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On February 10 2015 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote: I think you greatly over-ascribe things in sumails life to dota he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries. in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend. well like Arteezy he was rank 1 in NEL which does mean something. Tralf, him, and Yawar(his brother) were on one team together and they played officials/did decently well. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On February 10 2015 04:01 Sn0_Man wrote: well yes, when he played enough NEL and got noticed it was in fact because he was really fucking good otherwise you wouldn't see EG picking him up over the multitudinous other mid players available in NA. of course lol, I just think it's important to point out he did play some officials and that NEL actually means something to the NA pros | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
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Quochobao
United States350 Posts
On February 10 2015 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote: I think you greatly over-ascribe things in sumails life to dota he was a kid. played video games, some online. He played a variety, sometimes dota sometimes not dota. he got pretty good in dota but you literally can't go pro as a 13 y/o kid in pakistan, you can't even think about it. best you can do is dream about TI, which he says he did at some point. His family moved to america. Which isn't shocking, people who don't live in first world countries generally would like to move to first world countries. in the US he played more dota, played NEL cuz mm sux or something, realized that he was good and wanted to be the best (queue pokemon theme song). Got noticed by tralf, played scrims with tralf, got stolen by PPD aka NEL fiend. This kinda makes his skills more impressive actually. I thought that he's this good because he started playing very early and dedicated a lot to it. But it seems like Dota is just something that he plays, to which he only commits fully once he came to the US not a long time ago. So basically he has at most 2 years worth of playing full time, and yet he is this good. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 10 2015 04:51 Quochobao wrote: This kinda makes his skills more impressive actually. I thought that he's this good because he started playing very early and dedicated a lot to it. But it seems like Dota is just something that he plays, to which he only commits fully once he came to the US not a long time ago. So basically he has at most 2 years worth of playing full time, and yet he is this good. He said in his interview that he started playing the game heavily after TI1, so it's been 3 years. And started playing the game casually when he was 7. He probably has more DotA experience than most people on this board. | ||
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Greenstripe
United States164 Posts
On January 07 2015 09:33 Greenstripe wrote: Let's make a pact to both come back in 2 months and congratulate me on being right It's only been one month, but.... | ||
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widdox
166 Posts
http://walizahid.com/2015/02/pakistani-15-becomes-dota-2-world-champ/ Evidently he played with a Ex-Dota 1 pro in Pakistan. | ||
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Quochobao
United States350 Posts
On February 10 2015 04:54 WolfintheSheep wrote: He said in his interview that he started playing the game heavily after TI1, so it's been 3 years. And started playing the game casually when he was 7. He probably has more DotA experience than most people on this board. I mean there are plenty of people (myself included) who played Dota 1 until now. And I still suck balls :D | ||
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Quochobao
United States350 Posts
On February 10 2015 05:07 widdox wrote: https://twitter.com/shujaatazeem/status/564752053876957184 http://walizahid.com/2015/02/pakistani-15-becomes-dota-2-world-champ/ Evidently he played with a Ex-Dota 1 pro in Pakistan. Wow, I did not know that Dota is also big in Pakistan. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote: I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool Fear was a fucking amazing mid. Hell he won a 1 v 1 mid tournament before he was even playing mid for EG. He played some amazing puck and brewmaster games. He is a legend for a reason. | ||
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