EPTwell he is right about them always winning the NA qualifiers but what tournaments does ppd mean?
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goody153
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well he is right about them always winning the NA qualifiers but what tournaments does ppd mean? | ||
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lolnoty
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Atoissen
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On February 17 2015 17:24 DV G wrote: Ok let me help you Relic --> the guy who won vs RTZ 1v1 (the null talis shit) if he's on point he's sick. Tolera--> Ex root Gudii ---> Same, has been playing with relic for a while, also known as FanOfSoyeon Durpdurp ->no idea Sleisel --> almost 7k? (i think) player, he's known for being bitchy and not performing up to what he should given his reputation. So they're not bad, but beating EG should be an upset (as in any NA team beating EG lol) Thanks man  | ||
Elyvilon
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On February 17 2015 19:52 lolnoty wrote: probably unannounced/fleshed out tournaments, just generally referencing his schedule for the upcoming months. I generally agree with his sentiment that qualifiers should probably be for non tier 1 teams. I think some orgs just want to have NA qualifiers as [random content filler] and really don't want to invite non-EG NA teams which is against the spirit of the thing. The problem is, I read somewhere tournaments make their money from the online qualifiers, and guess who draws people to watch them? It's the top tier big name teams, not nearly as many people would tune in for a match between like NiP and HR, even though both are perfectly respectable teams. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On February 18 2015 00:47 Elyvilon wrote: The problem is, I read somewhere tournaments make their money from the online qualifiers, and guess who draws people to watch them? It's the top tier big name teams, not nearly as many people would tune in for a match between like NiP and HR, even though both are perfectly respectable teams. of course online makes money, the TO doesnt have to do anything holding an online qualifier other than just to cast it. they should just not participate in tournaments who force an online qualifier (unless the LAN money was too good to pass up) | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On February 18 2015 00:47 Elyvilon wrote: The problem is, I read somewhere tournaments make their money from the online qualifiers, and guess who draws people to watch them? It's the top tier big name teams, not nearly as many people would tune in for a match between like NiP and HR, even though both are perfectly respectable teams. On the other side of that, everyone and their mother was saying hype for tournaments was at an all time low when teams were playing 1-2x a day for a month. There's enough decent t2 teams that yeah, I would watch online quals if they were on. Like the only 100% for sure t1 teams in my mind are EG, TS, Empire in the West. There's plenty of teams outside of that I'd watch. | ||
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Beirut
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goody153
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Elyvilon
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On February 18 2015 06:40 lolnoty wrote: On the other side of that, everyone and their mother was saying hype for tournaments was at an all time low when teams were playing 1-2x a day for a month. There's enough decent t2 teams that yeah, I would watch online quals if they were on. Like the only 100% for sure t1 teams in my mind are EG, TS, Empire in the West. There's plenty of teams outside of that I'd watch. Putting aside your claim that Empire is a clear T1 team, which I don't agree with, we're the hardcore viewers. I would bet that a regular season game between Barcelona and Real Madrid, or the Patriots and the Giants, or whatever, pulls a lot more viewership than a game between two tier 2 clubs. As for the overloaded schedules(and I agree they are overloaded) leading to lower hype, you have the issue that everyone wants to reduce online qualifiers, but don't want to reduce their own(aka Tragedy of the Commons). I don't really know what the solution there is. | ||
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Belisarius
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FuzzyJAM
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On February 18 2015 14:58 Belisarius wrote: I feel like this just is the point where teams just need to start putting their feet down and not competing. The absolute T1 teams like EG, Secret etc have more than enough weight to do so. EG is the only Western team guaranteed a TI invite regardless of what they do from now on, however. That's problematic in terms of just refusing to play tournaments. Maybe Valve could be more transparent with invites, but that would remove the flexibility so I don't know what the solution might be. PPD's seems best for teams, but it would cut down on viewership hours for sure. | ||
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goody153
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On February 18 2015 20:58 FuzzyJAM wrote: EG is the only Western team guaranteed a TI invite regardless of what they do from now on, however. That's problematic in terms of just refusing to play tournaments. Maybe Valve could be more transparent with invites, but that would remove the flexibility so I don't know what the solution might be. PPD's seems best for teams, but it would cut down on viewership hours for sure. Secret they looked pretty fucking strong last DAC for running one strategy they are definitely TI-Invite worthy. The only ones who dominated them hard was EG, VG almost lost to them. C9 is also invite worthy since despite bone7 trying to throw every single fucking game(except those two NP games where he boned them) they still performed well enough. (secret almost lost to them) HR maybe Empire/NIP/Na'vi debatable. EDIT: oh wait you meant by not doing anything .. yeah eg is guaranteed | ||
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evanthebouncy!
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goody153
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lol universe | ||
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zev318
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On February 19 2015 23:08 goody153 wrote: https://twitter.com/UniverseDota/status/568316039181656064 lol universe right 3 looks so much better than the left 2............ hidden message????????? | ||
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pyrocumulus
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FHDH
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Belisarius
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On February 19 2015 23:08 goody153 wrote: https://twitter.com/UniverseDota/status/568316039181656064 lol universe PPD looks like he's a bit... challenged, especially in the actual artist one. Sumail is dead-on. | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
On February 20 2015 08:28 FHDH wrote: Gotta hand it to SumaiL, watching his Ember right now and it sure looks better than Arteezy's. Not necessarily a high bar though... Really looking forward to seeing if Sumail can branch out to more heroes in the next few months before TI5. I'm hoping his hero pool doesn't become a liability - really seemed like PPD was drafting around him in most game and I'm sure that's restrictive. He [PPD] said he was going to do a draft analysis soon, looking forward to that. | ||
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goody153
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On February 20 2015 23:58 Beirut wrote: Not necessarily a high bar though... Really looking forward to seeing if Sumail can branch out to more heroes in the next few months before TI5. I'm hoping his hero pool doesn't become a liability - really seemed like PPD was drafting around him in most game and I'm sure that's restrictive. He [PPD] said he was going to do a draft analysis soon, looking forward to that. He already did the draft analysis against secret like a night ago i think. Check his twitch | ||
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