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Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing.
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On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing.
I don't think so. Aside from those Lone Druid core picks . EG basically had a normal dual-core draft with universe puck/bat/clock or sometimes NP.
Although pretty sure they outdrafted a lot of teams.
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On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing.
I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool
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On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool
PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle.
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On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing.
watching PPD draft is a joy, except in that 3 months of non-stop DP/Razor and other TI4 picks
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On February 09 2015 21:45 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle.
I think RTZ right now is better than sumail; but sumail has literal years to catchup; ppd also threw in a lot of shade when referencing his old squadmates since they no longer believed in each other, which isn't the case with new EG
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On February 09 2015 21:54 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 21:45 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle. I think RTZ right now is better than sumail; but sumail has literal years to catchup; ppd also threw in a lot of shade when referencing his old squadmates since they no longer believed in each other, which isn't the case with new EG
You should compare RTZ with Fear and not Sumail, they are just not the same kind of players.
Compare Sumail with S4,Dendi and stuff.
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On February 09 2015 21:58 SkelA wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 21:54 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:45 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle. I think RTZ right now is better than sumail; but sumail has literal years to catchup; ppd also threw in a lot of shade when referencing his old squadmates since they no longer believed in each other, which isn't the case with new EG You should compare RTZ with Fear and not Sumail, they are just not the same kind of players. Compare Sumail with S4,Dendi and stuff.
Yah add fata to the list too.
Although suma1l is pretty fucking good ferrari even replied to some chinese forum that Suma1l is like him when playing storm when he was young. YYF also said chinese pubs are gonna start picking storm non-stop just because suma1l rekt with the hero.
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sumail is what EG needed tbh.
They lacked a secondary tempo controller, universe on the offlane can only do so much. Sumail is just completely different from RTZ, and I htink it's great addition
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different perspective from each player .. look at the salt factory and aui_1000 lol
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Fear is a great carry , and showed great play in this tourny , my MVP for DAC hands down  , getting him back on carries instead of the puck mid nonsense is great and his impact is that much bigger , fear AM was a beauty to watch as well which i missed from the "old" EG.
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One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
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On February 09 2015 23:27 bluzi wrote:
One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
I'm fine with PPD's salt(I'm actually a fan) but it wasn't on RTZ, it was Zai who wanted to leave and rtz who joined him and got secret to kick notail
On February 09 2015 22:05 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 21:58 SkelA wrote:On February 09 2015 21:54 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:45 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle. I think RTZ right now is better than sumail; but sumail has literal years to catchup; ppd also threw in a lot of shade when referencing his old squadmates since they no longer believed in each other, which isn't the case with new EG You should compare RTZ with Fear and not Sumail, they are just not the same kind of players. Compare Sumail with S4,Dendi and stuff. Yah add fata to the list too. Although suma1l is pretty fucking good ferrari even replied to some chinese forum that Suma1l is like him when playing storm when he was young. YYF also said chinese pubs are gonna start picking storm non-stop just because suma1l rekt with the hero.
yeah fair enough, I just compared Sumail to RTZ since they were both the super prodigy future of NA dota players on EG. Also people forget that arteezy was amazing at playing spacemakers when he first debuted (dat puck).
I'm genuinely so happy for aui_2000; I really think he deserved it and it's been a long way coming.
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On February 09 2015 23:31 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 23:27 bluzi wrote:
One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
I'm fine with PPD's salt(I'm actually a fan) but it wasn't on RTZ, it was Zai who wanted to leave and rtz who joined him and got secret to kick notail Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 22:05 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:58 SkelA wrote:On February 09 2015 21:54 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:45 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle. I think RTZ right now is better than sumail; but sumail has literal years to catchup; ppd also threw in a lot of shade when referencing his old squadmates since they no longer believed in each other, which isn't the case with new EG You should compare RTZ with Fear and not Sumail, they are just not the same kind of players. Compare Sumail with S4,Dendi and stuff. Yah add fata to the list too. Although suma1l is pretty fucking good ferrari even replied to some chinese forum that Suma1l is like him when playing storm when he was young. YYF also said chinese pubs are gonna start picking storm non-stop just because suma1l rekt with the hero. yeah fair enough, I just compared Sumail to RTZ since they were both the super prodigy future of NA dota players on EG. Also people forget that arteezy was amazing at playing spacemakers when he first debuted (dat puck). I'm genuinely so happy for aui_2000; I really think he deserved it and it's been a long way coming.
and timbersaw he played a godtier timbersaw before he started playing as a carry
i think now is the time to say that NA is pretty fucking legit region. They just need to create teams to compete so that it's not just Top EU vs Top CN vs 1 super NA team.
On February 09 2015 23:27 bluzi wrote:
One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
ppd admitted on an interview that the old EG was stronger than this EG
but that was of only there was no internal conflict.
On February 09 2015 23:23 bluzi wrote:Fear is a great carry , and showed great play in this tourny , my MVP for DAC hands down , getting him back on carries instead of the puck mid nonsense is great and his impact is that much bigger , fear AM was a beauty to watch as well which i missed from the "old" EG.
tbh fear is a pretty fucking legit mid
he was top-tier
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I am just glad the RTZ finally got to learn about humility. Fear did so well this event and I am glad they don't have to shape their entire draft around RTZs favorite heroes. People give him shit, but he is one of the most reliable players in Dota. He will play a greed AM, a support Visage or bad ass Puck and do exactly what the team needs. I am so happy that play style is being rewarded this week. Nothing flashy, just getting the job done.
And "sometimes I don't listen" Sumail is amazing.
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On February 09 2015 23:40 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 23:31 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 23:27 bluzi wrote:
One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
I'm fine with PPD's salt(I'm actually a fan) but it wasn't on RTZ, it was Zai who wanted to leave and rtz who joined him and got secret to kick notail On February 09 2015 22:05 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:58 SkelA wrote:On February 09 2015 21:54 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:45 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle. I think RTZ right now is better than sumail; but sumail has literal years to catchup; ppd also threw in a lot of shade when referencing his old squadmates since they no longer believed in each other, which isn't the case with new EG You should compare RTZ with Fear and not Sumail, they are just not the same kind of players. Compare Sumail with S4,Dendi and stuff. Yah add fata to the list too. Although suma1l is pretty fucking good ferrari even replied to some chinese forum that Suma1l is like him when playing storm when he was young. YYF also said chinese pubs are gonna start picking storm non-stop just because suma1l rekt with the hero. yeah fair enough, I just compared Sumail to RTZ since they were both the super prodigy future of NA dota players on EG. Also people forget that arteezy was amazing at playing spacemakers when he first debuted (dat puck). I'm genuinely so happy for aui_2000; I really think he deserved it and it's been a long way coming. and timbersaw he played a godtier timbersaw before he started playing as a carry i think now is the time to say that NA is pretty fucking legit region. They just need to create teams to compete so that it's not just Top EU vs Top CN vs 1 super NA team. Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 23:27 bluzi wrote:
One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
ppd admitted on an interview that the old EG was stronger than this EG but that was of only there was no internal conflict. Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 23:23 bluzi wrote:Fear is a great carry , and showed great play in this tourny , my MVP for DAC hands down , getting him back on carries instead of the puck mid nonsense is great and his impact is that much bigger , fear AM was a beauty to watch as well which i missed from the "old" EG. tbh fear is a pretty fucking legit mid he was top-tier
yeah, I miss that timbersaw (Speed Gaming never forget)
If NA had better supports they could. Say what you will about NEL/NaDota (and all the Inhouse leagues that precluded it) but it created really strong core players, unfortunately like Tralf's blog has stated; nobody wants to play support and it's hard to lead/captain NA teams. China's biggest advantage is that they have better supports overall, but with the numbers of core players who now play support, it should change
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On February 09 2015 23:51 bagels21 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2015 23:40 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 23:31 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 23:27 bluzi wrote:
One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
I'm fine with PPD's salt(I'm actually a fan) but it wasn't on RTZ, it was Zai who wanted to leave and rtz who joined him and got secret to kick notail On February 09 2015 22:05 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:58 SkelA wrote:On February 09 2015 21:54 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:45 goody153 wrote:On February 09 2015 21:40 bagels21 wrote:On February 09 2015 20:56 DucK- wrote:
Anyone feels that eg was the most versatile in terms of drafting? They played many different styles in the tournament. Of course I still enjoy the fact that PPD drafts according to his team, rather then blindly copying what other teams are doing. I think 2p or Hot_Bid have mentioned this in articles, but EG didn't blink when it came down to choosing PPD or RTZ (unlike Na'Vi) and for good reason; the guy's drafting and leadership are insane (and he has an immense chip on his shoulder). The current iteration of EG is probably even more flexible as Sumail is probably better at playing space makers than Fear did(post TI4) while Aui (while is farming patterns/leadership is different from zai) is a pretty similar swap in terms of skill and hero pool PPD thinks he has better players pre-shuffle. I think RTZ right now is better than sumail; but sumail has literal years to catchup; ppd also threw in a lot of shade when referencing his old squadmates since they no longer believed in each other, which isn't the case with new EG You should compare RTZ with Fear and not Sumail, they are just not the same kind of players. Compare Sumail with S4,Dendi and stuff. Yah add fata to the list too. Although suma1l is pretty fucking good ferrari even replied to some chinese forum that Suma1l is like him when playing storm when he was young. YYF also said chinese pubs are gonna start picking storm non-stop just because suma1l rekt with the hero. yeah fair enough, I just compared Sumail to RTZ since they were both the super prodigy future of NA dota players on EG. Also people forget that arteezy was amazing at playing spacemakers when he first debuted (dat puck). I'm genuinely so happy for aui_2000; I really think he deserved it and it's been a long way coming. and timbersaw he played a godtier timbersaw before he started playing as a carry i think now is the time to say that NA is pretty fucking legit region. They just need to create teams to compete so that it's not just Top EU vs Top CN vs 1 super NA team. On February 09 2015 23:27 bluzi wrote:
One thing about PPD salt , its warrented , RTZ not only left abruptly he convinced Zai to go with him which i believe was a bigger shock to PPD , if they had not got lucky with C9 kicking AUI (which PPD admits he couldnt believe the luck) , he wouldve been scrambling for mediocre replacement.
Sumail is not a big downgrade to RTZ because it also brings FEAR back to his best position by far which you might say overall increases EG strength.
ppd admitted on an interview that the old EG was stronger than this EG but that was of only there was no internal conflict. On February 09 2015 23:23 bluzi wrote:Fear is a great carry , and showed great play in this tourny , my MVP for DAC hands down , getting him back on carries instead of the puck mid nonsense is great and his impact is that much bigger , fear AM was a beauty to watch as well which i missed from the "old" EG. tbh fear is a pretty fucking legit mid he was top-tier yeah, I miss that timbersaw (Speed Gaming never forget) If NA had better supports they could. Say what you will about NEL/NaDota (and all the Inhouse leagues that precluded it) but it created really strong core players, unfortunately like Tralf's blog has stated; nobody wants to play support and it's hard to lead/captain NA teams. China's biggest advantage is that they have better supports overall, but with the numbers of core players who now play support, it should change
yah  i think sea is even more abundant when it comes to supports
well we have good supports like fluff, wayto(hey he may shit but he is like xiao8 before) , fogged .. if only those 3 teams find team with a good captain and legit cores then i think we may possibly have the 2nd eg
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btw suma1l stats are fucking ridiculous
has the most deaths for the first 5 minutes of the match and he has the second most kills in 6-10 minute mark of the match
all in one match rofl (game 3 grand finals)
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On February 09 2015 23:57 goody153 wrote:
btw suma1l stats are fucking ridiculous
has the most deaths for the first 5 minutes of the match and he has the second most kills in 6-10 minute mark of the match
all in one match rofl (game 3 grand finals)
First part is due to VG's plan, second part is dat kid's skill... Overall the whole team performed so well, from draft to execution, I hope they can keep this going for at least 6 months (altough, PPD, less salt plz, u deserve better).
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