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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 06:20:30
September 06 2018 06:20 GMT
#121
I like the new roster. The number of heroes that Ace and 33 have that can win games with last pick if they are not countered makes the bans against this team hard.
Will miss Zai but have seen Saksa be really good especially with timings of big spells.
Think CCnC improved so much last season so bit strange to drop him now. And not when he was so awful in the beginning.
GO OG
nuketurnal2
Profile Joined August 2018
62 Posts
September 06 2018 14:05 GMT
#122
ok TNC Predator just announced their new lineup.

Gabbi
Armel
Kuku (switching to offlane i suppose?)
Tims
Ninjaboogie

my reaction is meh. imo, Raven > Gabbi. then again, we'll see how Kuku does in the offlane
267
Profile Joined December 2017
64 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 14:22:25
September 06 2018 14:16 GMT
#123
On September 06 2018 02:48 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 00:55 BrownBear wrote:
PPD's new team, looks like currently orgless but looking for a home: mobile.twitter.com

1. Ace
2. Fata
3. 33
4. Saksa
5. PPD


this team does not fill me with good feelings at first, likely because zai left.

that doesn't mean it's not going to work out, of course. I hope zai didn't leave again because he wants to play offlane, because he's just not as good at it. 33 staying is a good sign, with a little more experience at the top level he could be a top tier offlaner.

Fata will be interesting, as he is one of those mid players that has gotten a lot of results and been around quite a while: probably a good upgrade over pajkatt or ccnc. Saksa is likely to fit well as he has been on optic before as a standin, although I don't remember how well he played there (I don't doubt his credentials; he was on that special sunsfan squad at a certain TI despite his difficulty finding a good team since then).

Thank god ccnc is gone. He had some good moments, yet his overxtensions vastly outnumbered those. "cool, calm, and collected" were attributes he wishes he had, not ones he has.

Ace is the wild card for me here. He and Fata have played together on secret, so there should not be many problems there, but I do not know much about him.

On the whole: too many euros for me to declare glorious NA triumph, but I think this team has more t1 potential than optic at the reveal of their final roster. The only obvious potential weakness is PPD's unfamiliarity with his core players. That's a lot shorter of a list than the criticisms that were swiftly levelled at his optic squad.



The definition of NA / EU roster is pretty vague these days but.. why would this team even be considered an NA team at the moment?

They are without org and ppd is the only player from NA. So if ppd is on a team it is per default an NA team? :p
267
Profile Joined December 2017
64 Posts
September 06 2018 14:22 GMT
#124
On September 06 2018 12:32 goody153 wrote:
Ok the new ppd roster actually looks really good compared the old optic one. Solid overall. It has potential

I wouldn't worry about Fata mid. He's gonna fulfill a playmaking role rather a carry ones anyways. This is basically a 4 protect Ace lineup.


Well that would be a pretty bad sign since I dont think a "4 protect 1 strategy" as been used by any tier 1 team the last ~2 years.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
September 06 2018 14:28 GMT
#125
On September 06 2018 23:22 267 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 12:32 goody153 wrote:
Ok the new ppd roster actually looks really good compared the old optic one. Solid overall. It has potential

I wouldn't worry about Fata mid. He's gonna fulfill a playmaking role rather a carry ones anyways. This is basically a 4 protect Ace lineup.


Well that would be a pretty bad sign since I dont think a "4 protect 1 strategy" as been used by any tier 1 team the last ~2 years.

og won by making space for ana though. The thing is that it can't be your only strat, i think they have some cheese strats to cover that base
Damned627
Profile Joined November 2016
Indonesia264 Posts
September 06 2018 15:27 GMT
#126
Xiao8 it seems is coming back to play, words on the street tells that he is building a new Ehome team. On the other hand Boboka has left iG and is most likely heading to DK.
None
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
September 06 2018 15:55 GMT
#127
Ice3 and Jabz are out of Mineski. Just Mushi and Nana now and their future seems to be up in the air.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
September 06 2018 16:13 GMT
#128
On September 06 2018 11:07 Achaian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 03:43 LemOn wrote:
Fata mid? Cmon this can't last
I'd be shocked if an old school mid makes it work


you people keep saying stuff like that but old school mid/carries like s4 are still around and punching their weight, though not necessarily in the same role

old supports, on the other hand, seem to have no problem sticking around in the dota scene

That's exactly what I'm saying, the year after year built up habits as 2 several years ago now fit a 3
Fata doesn't and never has fit the mold of the tempo+farm keeping 1/2 that wins games these days
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 16:16:20
September 06 2018 16:14 GMT
#129
rumor is that mineski is

1-Mushi
2-nana (moonn)
3-kpii
4-febby
5- ?

some reliable person said that 2 other region people with initials S and F were in talks with mineski(most probably shadow and Faith bian as it makes sense due to the fact that mushi and moonn both understand chinese pretty well), but it didnt go through, so they are searching for position 5.

one weird rumor is that dendi is joining them. sounds ridiculous, but one of the reliable person in SEA and close to mineski management posted image saying dendi on facebook,

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155525563237007&id=634242006

this guy is the VP of mineski events team. so there's that.
Achaian
Profile Joined April 2015
United States3369 Posts
September 06 2018 19:02 GMT
#130
On September 06 2018 23:16 267 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 02:48 Achaian wrote:
On September 06 2018 00:55 BrownBear wrote:
PPD's new team, looks like currently orgless but looking for a home: mobile.twitter.com

1. Ace
2. Fata
3. 33
4. Saksa
5. PPD


this team does not fill me with good feelings at first, likely because zai left.

that doesn't mean it's not going to work out, of course. I hope zai didn't leave again because he wants to play offlane, because he's just not as good at it. 33 staying is a good sign, with a little more experience at the top level he could be a top tier offlaner.

Fata will be interesting, as he is one of those mid players that has gotten a lot of results and been around quite a while: probably a good upgrade over pajkatt or ccnc. Saksa is likely to fit well as he has been on optic before as a standin, although I don't remember how well he played there (I don't doubt his credentials; he was on that special sunsfan squad at a certain TI despite his difficulty finding a good team since then).

Thank god ccnc is gone. He had some good moments, yet his overxtensions vastly outnumbered those. "cool, calm, and collected" were attributes he wishes he had, not ones he has.

Ace is the wild card for me here. He and Fata have played together on secret, so there should not be many problems there, but I do not know much about him.

On the whole: too many euros for me to declare glorious NA triumph, but I think this team has more t1 potential than optic at the reveal of their final roster. The only obvious potential weakness is PPD's unfamiliarity with his core players. That's a lot shorter of a list than the criticisms that were swiftly levelled at his optic squad.



The definition of NA / EU roster is pretty vague these days but.. why would this team even be considered an NA team at the moment?

They are without org and ppd is the only player from NA. So if ppd is on a team it is per default an NA team? :p


I never called it an NA team. I even said "too many euros for me..." (not that I have a serious problem with that)

an org could house it in NA though, which would make it about as real an NA team as EG is, which varies depending on opinion.
nuketurnal2
Profile Joined August 2018
62 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 20:01:54
September 06 2018 20:01 GMT
#131
On September 07 2018 00:55 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Ice3 and Jabz are out of Mineski. Just Mushi and Nana now and their future seems to be up in the air.


hmmm id like to see raven, ice3, jabz, abed, and dj team up
dragonswarrior
Profile Joined August 2015
389 Posts
September 06 2018 20:13 GMT
#132
On September 07 2018 05:01 nuketurnal2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2018 00:55 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Ice3 and Jabz are out of Mineski. Just Mushi and Nana now and their future seems to be up in the air.


hmmm id like to see raven, ice3, jabz, abed, and dj team up

I love this idea.
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 06 2018 20:20 GMT
#133
Didn't ice3 say on twitter he was going to play in mainland China?
passive quaranstream fan
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 06 2018 21:23 GMT
#134
ice says alot of things
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
September 07 2018 04:08 GMT
#135
On September 07 2018 05:13 dragonswarrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2018 05:01 nuketurnal2 wrote:
On September 07 2018 00:55 M.S.Bismarck wrote:
Ice3 and Jabz are out of Mineski. Just Mushi and Nana now and their future seems to be up in the air.


hmmm id like to see raven, ice3, jabz, abed, and dj team up

I love this idea.

Only problem is who plays 4 and who plays 5? Both jabz and dj play the same position
Sucker for nostalgia
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-07 04:16:28
September 07 2018 04:11 GMT
#136
and there is no proper drafter and captain in that team. i wonder, who will be the drafter and captain for them.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7057 Posts
September 07 2018 07:54 GMT
#137
On September 07 2018 13:11 Batmankills wrote:
and there is no proper drafter and captain in that team. i wonder, who will be the drafter and captain for them.

this is less of an issue due to the coach rules
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
September 07 2018 09:56 GMT
#138
If you can find an appropriate coach maybe. I don't think it's all that easy to find a coach that can do a better job as a drafter and in developing strategies. Most people who can do that are captaining other teams.
nuketurnal2
Profile Joined August 2018
62 Posts
September 07 2018 13:01 GMT
#139
didn't DJ assume captaincy during his time in execration?
Batmankills
Profile Joined February 2016
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-07 13:44:35
September 07 2018 13:23 GMT
#140
BurNing is ready to pay 4 million RMB for 2 players from VG :O .. wow !!!!

DK.sylar, DK.boboka, DK,xxs might be happening .maybe DK.sccc too

some drama happened based on player transfer in china. ROTK posted it on his weibo.

Seems like dk already got boboka and xxs. None of vg players wanna stay in the organization. Dk and VG has already achieved the agreement about transfer fee couples of weeks ago. But according to what Sylar said in Weibo,Somehow management of Vg changed the mind.
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