Every year after teams fail to make it to TI we see the inevitable roster shuffle begin. Instead of making a post about every single roster move we've decided to consolidate them all here.
Isn't this a bit too early? 37 Days until TI and then the whole TI and only then a roster shuffle? edit: reading fail on my part, it's not only a post-TI thread...
There've been a pretty good number of rumours surrounding LFY and EHOME since neither made it to TI8. Wonder what's going to happen there...
Probably also worth mentioning that there's definitely going to be some machinations when it comes to team ownership given the new rules for next year's DPC season.
On July 10 2018 00:20 Latham wrote: Isn't this a bit too early? 37 Days until TI and then the whole TI and only then a roster shuffle? edit: reading fail on my part, it's not only a post-TI thread...
Also it is past the qualifiers ... some decisions are already made for teams based on missing to qualify.
Qupe left LOTV, (Waga's team). He is been one of, if not the, most impressive player in that roster since adamsson left earlier to join singularity. Interested to see if he moves into one of the more established teams next. He is a pos 4 player as well, not something the scene is full of when you go away from the bigger orgs that form the tier 1 and 2 competetition.
The team was one or two series away from qualifying to the Supermajor but besides that they've been a somewhat steady presence in the EU tier 3ish scene, making to some EU main qualifiers through open quals and even an invite to one or two I think.
Optic Gaming disbanded. VGJ.Storm is now Optic Gaming, Sneyking kicked for Universe. Ace and Fata out of Secret, Zai to play offlane Fnatic is scattered, Universe is out, PieLieDie wants to still play with EternaLEnVy, Abed might join a Chinese team Mineski disbanded Liquid stable EG stable
Wonder what PPD plans on doing now if he's out of Optic. Any chance he could join EG as a coach, or do we think he likes playing too much to bother with that sort of task?
On August 28 2018 04:25 plasmidghost wrote: I read that ppd said he wants to play with EE, I wonder if they'll form their own team. If they do, I guess that's it for the Pie-EE duo
Why? I feel like with practice Pie would be able to switch to 4. Though I'd be sad if they lost DJ...
On August 28 2018 03:56 intotheheart wrote: Wonder what PPD plans on doing now if he's out of Optic. Any chance he could join EG as a coach, or do we think he likes playing too much to bother with that sort of task?
After the mess he made while he was an executive, I can't imagine EG would want him back.
Fnatic and Mineski make sense, they'll probably reshuffle around to form some SEA squad.
I could see ccnc and ppd sticking together to form an NA stack, ccnc + ppd + fear could be the start of a team maybe. If they could grab someone like bsj or mason + an offlaner they could probably make it to minors at least.
I could imagine something like a misery + 33 + w33 stack sort of thing, unless w33 is committed to the Brazilian lifestyle.
On August 28 2018 05:17 emperorchampion wrote: Fnatic and Mineski make sense, they'll probably reshuffle around to form some SEA squad.
I could see ccnc and ppd sticking together to form an NA stack, ccnc + ppd + fear could be the start of a team maybe. If they could grab someone like bsj or mason + an offlaner they could probably make it to minors at least.
I could imagine something like a misery + 33 + w33 stack sort of thing, unless w33 is committed to the Brazilian lifestyle.
I really think w33 and Misery should stay in Pain Gaming. Under the new system, each region automatically gets a minimum 2 spots at every major. Pain practically have a free ride to every single major this year unless they collapse in on themselves.
According to xiao8 tweet Kpii is looking for EE and there's a rumor about PPD talking to Fnatic manager as he wanted to play with EE. Well if that happens i'm kinda excited how it will turn out.
On August 28 2018 23:35 nVme wrote: why do ppl want to play with EE?
Yeah, each time I watch one of his team I wonder the same... And from all of them, how come PPD wanna play with him? Seen from here it looks like those two guys would never fit together in a competitive environment.
On August 28 2018 23:35 nVme wrote: why do ppl want to play with EE?
Same question to why people wanted to play with bulba or fear/universe(he wasn't good before ppd). Or why people wanted to play with RTZ. Or why people wanted to play with MSS (before VGJS was he really relevant apart from his time with NP ?). Or why people wanted to play with misery who has more failures than success.
Not everybody has the same successful streak like Miracle or Suma1l or GH who started winning from the very beginning of their careers and has very little failures. The rest of the scene actually has alot of failures like majority of them fail alot.
In contrary to how bad EE's team usually is at TI. His teams are consistently close to T1 and has always relatively done well (2nd place finishes on literally every roster he formed .. this isn't easy especially if you are not getting the best players). Being consistently good is fairly difficult even the dominant ones you know like Matumbaman or Ramzes or jerax or ana or even the korean players or other really strong players nowadays took a huge amount of time playing relatively unsuccessful before they ever became relevant.
EE on the other hand has always had teams who did relatively well all the time.
We are outsider perspective so we don't really know how EE works from the inside the team or how scrims go against his team but the proplayers know. And hey they know better than well everybody of us (cause we aren't pros lol)
Also worth considering is that a lot of the people who have played with Envy have gone on to improve immensely, with several of his former teammates having become TI winners, and some of the players who played with him have credited him with helping them improve.
I think most of his former teammates have good opinion of him(except maybe notail and mss according to himself .. maybe some others who knows) as they still end playing with him after getting kicked or leaving or something.
Anyways pros seem to have a positive opinion of him. Similar to how everybody wants to play with rtz
On August 28 2018 04:25 plasmidghost wrote: I read that ppd said he wants to play with EE, I wonder if they'll form their own team. If they do, I guess that's it for the Pie-EE duo
If this happens, the end times are near. There is no way that pairing would ever work out(ego issues, been wrong before though and they have matured significantly) although I would pay a lot of money to listen in on the voice coms.
I hope PPD manages to keep 33 and zai around, at least. Or one of the two and universe.
I don't want Pie-EE duo to end tbh. It's like i count them as one in the years that i've followed them. It would be sad if it would finally end. I'd rather that they play together to the bitterend or maybe to that victory they finally craved for so long.
On August 29 2018 12:38 Nevuk wrote: Also worth considering is that a lot of the people who have played with Envy have gone on to improve immensely, with several of his former teammates having become TI winners, and some of the players who played with him have credited him with helping them improve.
To be honest it feels like they looked better because they looked so bad with Envy? Honestly he must be an amazing person in real life because his play is not that impressive. He just yolo's alot and his great plays are celebrated but they seem to be few and far in between. I assume he offers alot behind the scenes, if people want to keep playing with him. Fanatic looked so badly outclassed at TI.
Kinda feel the same way about Arteezy - Sumail was extremely impactful mid and created tons of space in nearly every game at TI. Crit, Fly and S$ were either great or at least broke even in their lanes. Artour was just...underwhelming. Really think EG need a new safelaner.
On August 29 2018 14:38 Sapaio wrote: I saw some qual for TI, the person that impressed me the most and didn't make TI was InYourDream from TNC Tigers.
Any news about team change for him.
Very much in agreement, his PL was extremely good. I know 1437 was captaining that squad but couldn’t say if his English is good enough to join a non-SEA squad. His FB says he signed with a new streaming platform? No news on him leaving Tigers
On August 29 2018 12:38 Nevuk wrote: Also worth considering is that a lot of the people who have played with Envy have gone on to improve immensely, with several of his former teammates having become TI winners, and some of the players who played with him have credited him with helping them improve.
To be honest it feels like they looked better because they looked so bad with Envy? Honestly he must be an amazing person in real life because his play is not that impressive.He just yolo's alot and his great plays are celebrated but they seem to be few and far in between. I assume he offers alot behind the scenes, if people want to keep playing with him. Fanatic looked so badly outclassed at TI.
Kinda feel the same way about Arteezy - Sumail was extremely impactful mid and created tons of space in nearly every game at TI. Crit, Fly and S$ were either great or at least broke even in their lanes. Artour was just...underwhelming. Really think EG need a new safelaner.
The biggest stomp of this TI8 still belongs to fnatic going 39-1 against Liquid. Yes liquid did pretty decent this TI.
Even before TI they had like 3 second place finishes with the most recent one being the summit where they kind owned everybody except EG. Envy is a sacrificial carry player who literally like played half a year getting sacked by his entire team. He talked bad situations for universe/abed to get a good game.
Fear and Notail as 1 position was similar sacked carry as before. Like not everybody can do what Ame, Ramzes as they're given situations where they are giving up farm priority and given ineffective playmakers to other players or just playing none-play making heroes. Even Matumbaman played alot of sacrificial safelaner for his team so that miracle can do his things.
Just because a player doesn't make alot of plays doesn't he's automatically replaceable and bad. Cause that would mean majority of the 5 position players who aren't playmakers including players like puppey should be replaced. Ceb is relatively not that effective playmaker(apart from some games .. he is a lowkey player for the team) but he is essential to OG's TI8 victory.
Sounds like a solid lineup. I didn't follow VGJ Storm so closely to really have an opinion on what bringing Universe in Sneyking's place will do to the team but hard to see it being a complete disaster at least
Quite expected to see Universe back in NA. I think even if Fnatic had got a few rounds deeper at TI he would have preferred to come back instead of playing in SEA
I honestly didn't think that universe would end up with ppd's team again considering he chose fnatic over optic last season. But who knows about people (didn't also think that suma1l and artour would stick together for a very long time )
On August 30 2018 22:23 teddyoojo wrote: Nisha to Secret 95% confirmed
I did read that Ace was leaving Secret, too bad. do you also know about their offlane? heard Zai is replacing Fata
zai offlane is so meh though, yes there was that short phase where secret had the "unbeatable" pool of 15 heroes but every other time he has done offlane its been worse than his 4
On September 01 2018 05:28 emperorchampion wrote: I think that was partly valves plan by having the first tournament qualifiers so soon after TI
It makes sense if they're trying to capture more and more casual viewers.
Say you're a casual dota player and you don't usually watch dota, but you watch TI and see Team Liquid's run and become a casual fan of the team. But you don't follow the scene. Next time a big tournament comes, you watch it and all of Team Liquid is different and you're sad and confused and stop watching your favorites.
On August 31 2018 23:33 Zea! wrote: This year reshuffle period looks a bit underwhelming
I think that's in part to the top teams this year not needing to reshuffle, and they have a deep concentration of the talent right now. It wouldn't make sense for any of Liquid, VP, LGD, or EG to re-shuffle. OG could potentially get upgrades but since they literally won TI it's no surprise if they don't.
EE has a complete roster already. Tho i wonder which player stayed with him as he had that tweet where somebody was willing to stick with him even with the failure
I wonder if this would be pieliedie
On August 31 2018 23:33 Zea! wrote: This year reshuffle period looks a bit underwhelming
That's because the top finishers of this year are who were already doing well before TI. So highly unlikely the cream of the crop would change
I think it's a good decision keeping Crystallize at least, the rest I don't really have a feeling for. I think this is really the test if sonneiko can make something happen as a captain with a team that he probably had a hand in picking. Otherwise his results have been pretty shaky.
Yea I think Febby has dual citizenship. And yea it's not a team for the pro circuit given Aui was announced as a coach for ex-VGJS already and not sure if wayto is even playing these days. Also we'll see if they even end up playing WESG. As far as I recall the last two years there haven't been any NA teams with pro players at the event. They always had some sort of scheduling conflicts and there will probably be some this year as well at least for some players
On September 03 2018 12:26 Batmankills wrote: There was one rumor on reddit that mushi has contacted dendi, mag and 1437 recently for his new team. idk how plausible is this thing.
Mushi and Dendi to win TI9 would make me cream ...
OMG!!!! Mushi and Dendi wouldn't need to win anything ever If they form a team they will have fanboys following them everywhere even if they are Tier 69
On September 03 2018 12:26 Batmankills wrote: There was one rumor on reddit that mushi has contacted dendi, mag and 1437 recently for his new team. idk how plausible is this thing.
After watching a lot of questionable Mushi's play and items build, any players that want to win a TI or get into top 3 would not want him in the team.
On September 03 2018 12:26 Batmankills wrote: There was one rumor on reddit that mushi has contacted dendi, mag and 1437 recently for his new team. idk how plausible is this thing.
After watching a lot of questionable Mushi's play and items build, any players that want to win a TI or get into top 3 would not want him in the team.
it's not like other SEA teams other than mushi are getting into top 3 year after year, either. other SEA teams performance has been below mushi's team for most part of recent years.
mushi's team has been at the top of SEA year after year. He had his down times, but he has come back. no team in SEA has gotten top3 in TI since orange esports which was also one of mushi's team. and the main thing is mushi was the one who built all those teams and was captain in those teams.
people were spouting same bullshit about him before he got top4 with fnatic at ti6. There is a reason top players still go to his team due to him being the most prominent captain in SEA region.
On September 04 2018 20:12 nayumi wrote: Mushi, Burning, Dendi, Merlini & Loda
OMG?
but yeah, there is a rumor is china that DK is coming back with
1- sylar 2- sccc 3- xxs 4-boboka 5- burning/ some other player
burning has been planning to bring DK back since long time.. he might play in this roster or just be the manager of this roster.
OH that's a sexy line up.
Burning as 5? That could be really interesting! I hope this is real. A lot of 'old' chinese players seem to be coming back hmm? Wasn't there a rumour that ferrarri430 also wants to come back?
On September 06 2018 00:55 BrownBear wrote: PPD's new team, looks like currently orgless but looking for a home: mobile.twitter.com
1. Ace 2. Fata 3. 33 4. Saksa 5. PPD
this team does not fill me with good feelings at first, likely because zai left.
that doesn't mean it's not going to work out, of course. I hope zai didn't leave again because he wants to play offlane, because he's just not as good at it. 33 staying is a good sign, with a little more experience at the top level he could be a top tier offlaner.
Fata will be interesting, as he is one of those mid players that has gotten a lot of results and been around quite a while: probably a good upgrade over pajkatt or ccnc. Saksa is likely to fit well as he has been on optic before as a standin, although I don't remember how well he played there (I don't doubt his credentials; he was on that special sunsfan squad at a certain TI despite his difficulty finding a good team since then).
Thank god ccnc is gone. He had some good moments, yet his overxtensions vastly outnumbered those. "cool, calm, and collected" were attributes he wishes he had, not ones he has.
Ace is the wild card for me here. He and Fata have played together on secret, so there should not be many problems there, but I do not know much about him.
On the whole: too many euros for me to declare glorious NA triumph, but I think this team has more t1 potential than optic at the reveal of their final roster. The only obvious potential weakness is PPD's unfamiliarity with his core players. That's a lot shorter of a list than the criticisms that were swiftly levelled at his optic squad.
I'm surprised how everyone on reddit seems to be freaking out about how sick of a lineup ppd made. My reaction is a giant "meh". How can one be excited about Ace and FATA as the cores? 33 and ppd are legit and Saksa may complement ppd well but the dude is super flaky so who knows how long he's gonna be committed.
If this team sticks together I just don't see them competing with other T1 teams to finish better than Optic this year.
On September 06 2018 00:55 BrownBear wrote: PPD's new team, looks like currently orgless but looking for a home: mobile.twitter.com
1. Ace 2. Fata 3. 33 4. Saksa 5. PPD
this team does not fill me with good feelings at first, likely because zai left.
that doesn't mean it's not going to work out, of course. I hope zai didn't leave again because he wants to play offlane, because he's just not as good at it. 33 staying is a good sign, with a little more experience at the top level he could be a top tier offlaner.
Fata will be interesting, as he is one of those mid players that has gotten a lot of results and been around quite a while: probably a good upgrade over pajkatt or ccnc. Saksa is likely to fit well as he has been on optic before as a standin, although I don't remember how well he played there (I don't doubt his credentials; he was on that special sunsfan squad at a certain TI despite his difficulty finding a good team since then).
Thank god ccnc is gone. He had some good moments, yet his overxtensions vastly outnumbered those. "cool, calm, and collected" were attributes he wishes he had, not ones he has.
Ace is the wild card for me here. He and Fata have played together on secret, so there should not be many problems there, but I do not know much about him.
On the whole: too many euros for me to declare glorious NA triumph, but I think this team has more t1 potential than optic at the reveal of their final roster. The only obvious potential weakness is PPD's unfamiliarity with his core players. That's a lot shorter of a list than the criticisms that were swiftly levelled at his optic squad.
ppd is going all-in on the "what do you do when preparing for this team?" drafts. They are running 3 flex cores and Saksa/ppd will likely spend the season switching off on who's playing 5 in the draft.
One of the longest-standing veterans of the top eschelon of NA Heroes of the Storm just announced his intention to switch over to Dota today. He left the region's top team and the financial guarantees of a regularly occurring pro league, so I can't help but think he has a stack ready to go.
On September 06 2018 03:43 LemOn wrote: Fata mid? Cmon this can't last I'd be shocked if an old school mid makes it work
you people keep saying stuff like that but old school mid/carries like s4 are still around and punching their weight, though not necessarily in the same role
old supports, on the other hand, seem to have no problem sticking around in the dota scene
I like the new roster. The number of heroes that Ace and 33 have that can win games with last pick if they are not countered makes the bans against this team hard. Will miss Zai but have seen Saksa be really good especially with timings of big spells. Think CCnC improved so much last season so bit strange to drop him now. And not when he was so awful in the beginning.
On September 06 2018 00:55 BrownBear wrote: PPD's new team, looks like currently orgless but looking for a home: mobile.twitter.com
1. Ace 2. Fata 3. 33 4. Saksa 5. PPD
this team does not fill me with good feelings at first, likely because zai left.
that doesn't mean it's not going to work out, of course. I hope zai didn't leave again because he wants to play offlane, because he's just not as good at it. 33 staying is a good sign, with a little more experience at the top level he could be a top tier offlaner.
Fata will be interesting, as he is one of those mid players that has gotten a lot of results and been around quite a while: probably a good upgrade over pajkatt or ccnc. Saksa is likely to fit well as he has been on optic before as a standin, although I don't remember how well he played there (I don't doubt his credentials; he was on that special sunsfan squad at a certain TI despite his difficulty finding a good team since then).
Thank god ccnc is gone. He had some good moments, yet his overxtensions vastly outnumbered those. "cool, calm, and collected" were attributes he wishes he had, not ones he has.
Ace is the wild card for me here. He and Fata have played together on secret, so there should not be many problems there, but I do not know much about him.
On the whole: too many euros for me to declare glorious NA triumph, but I think this team has more t1 potential than optic at the reveal of their final roster. The only obvious potential weakness is PPD's unfamiliarity with his core players. That's a lot shorter of a list than the criticisms that were swiftly levelled at his optic squad.
The definition of NA / EU roster is pretty vague these days but.. why would this team even be considered an NA team at the moment?
They are without org and ppd is the only player from NA. So if ppd is on a team it is per default an NA team? :p
On September 06 2018 12:32 goody153 wrote: Ok the new ppd roster actually looks really good compared the old optic one. Solid overall. It has potential
I wouldn't worry about Fata mid. He's gonna fulfill a playmaking role rather a carry ones anyways. This is basically a 4 protect Ace lineup.
Well that would be a pretty bad sign since I dont think a "4 protect 1 strategy" as been used by any tier 1 team the last ~2 years.
On September 06 2018 12:32 goody153 wrote: Ok the new ppd roster actually looks really good compared the old optic one. Solid overall. It has potential
I wouldn't worry about Fata mid. He's gonna fulfill a playmaking role rather a carry ones anyways. This is basically a 4 protect Ace lineup.
Well that would be a pretty bad sign since I dont think a "4 protect 1 strategy" as been used by any tier 1 team the last ~2 years.
og won by making space for ana though. The thing is that it can't be your only strat, i think they have some cheese strats to cover that base
Xiao8 it seems is coming back to play, words on the street tells that he is building a new Ehome team. On the other hand Boboka has left iG and is most likely heading to DK.
On September 06 2018 03:43 LemOn wrote: Fata mid? Cmon this can't last I'd be shocked if an old school mid makes it work
you people keep saying stuff like that but old school mid/carries like s4 are still around and punching their weight, though not necessarily in the same role
old supports, on the other hand, seem to have no problem sticking around in the dota scene
That's exactly what I'm saying, the year after year built up habits as 2 several years ago now fit a 3 Fata doesn't and never has fit the mold of the tempo+farm keeping 1/2 that wins games these days
some reliable person said that 2 other region people with initials S and F were in talks with mineski(most probably shadow and Faith bian as it makes sense due to the fact that mushi and moonn both understand chinese pretty well), but it didnt go through, so they are searching for position 5.
one weird rumor is that dendi is joining them. sounds ridiculous, but one of the reliable person in SEA and close to mineski management posted image saying dendi on facebook,
On September 06 2018 00:55 BrownBear wrote: PPD's new team, looks like currently orgless but looking for a home: mobile.twitter.com
1. Ace 2. Fata 3. 33 4. Saksa 5. PPD
this team does not fill me with good feelings at first, likely because zai left.
that doesn't mean it's not going to work out, of course. I hope zai didn't leave again because he wants to play offlane, because he's just not as good at it. 33 staying is a good sign, with a little more experience at the top level he could be a top tier offlaner.
Fata will be interesting, as he is one of those mid players that has gotten a lot of results and been around quite a while: probably a good upgrade over pajkatt or ccnc. Saksa is likely to fit well as he has been on optic before as a standin, although I don't remember how well he played there (I don't doubt his credentials; he was on that special sunsfan squad at a certain TI despite his difficulty finding a good team since then).
Thank god ccnc is gone. He had some good moments, yet his overxtensions vastly outnumbered those. "cool, calm, and collected" were attributes he wishes he had, not ones he has.
Ace is the wild card for me here. He and Fata have played together on secret, so there should not be many problems there, but I do not know much about him.
On the whole: too many euros for me to declare glorious NA triumph, but I think this team has more t1 potential than optic at the reveal of their final roster. The only obvious potential weakness is PPD's unfamiliarity with his core players. That's a lot shorter of a list than the criticisms that were swiftly levelled at his optic squad.
The definition of NA / EU roster is pretty vague these days but.. why would this team even be considered an NA team at the moment?
They are without org and ppd is the only player from NA. So if ppd is on a team it is per default an NA team? :p
I never called it an NA team. I even said "too many euros for me..." (not that I have a serious problem with that)
an org could house it in NA though, which would make it about as real an NA team as EG is, which varies depending on opinion.
On September 07 2018 13:11 Batmankills wrote: and there is no proper drafter and captain in that team. i wonder, who will be the drafter and captain for them.
If you can find an appropriate coach maybe. I don't think it's all that easy to find a coach that can do a better job as a drafter and in developing strategies. Most people who can do that are captaining other teams.
BurNing is ready to pay 4 million RMB for 2 players from VG :O .. wow !!!!
DK.sylar, DK.boboka, DK,xxs might be happening .maybe DK.sccc too
some drama happened based on player transfer in china. ROTK posted it on his weibo.
Seems like dk already got boboka and xxs. None of vg players wanna stay in the organization. Dk and VG has already achieved the agreement about transfer fee couples of weeks ago. But according to what Sylar said in Weibo,Somehow management of Vg changed the mind.
Translations :- New place new beginning. Looking back at the past few years, we had times where we felt happy getting first places, and also had the times we felt sad where we lost at the first round of the tournaments. I will continue my career, and won't forget my heart/passion/dream when I first started.
some rumors on sgamer are saying that iceiceice is going to newbee.. along with ferrari_430 and hao as position 2 and 1.
Translations :- New place new beginning. Looking back at the past few years, we had times where we felt happy getting first places, and also had the times we felt sad where we lost at the first round of the tournaments. I will continue my career, and won't forget my heart/passion/dream when I first started.
some rumors on sgamer are saying that iceiceice is going to newbee.. along with ferrari_430 and hao as position 2 and 1.
Hao and Ferrari in the same team is dope though, the spectre king being back is absolutely awesome.
update on the drama on chinese transfers currently happening.
BurNing wants sylar on DK and VG people are blaming DK for poaching players from backdoor without proper negotiations. so, they don't want to let sylar go. So, he has to stay on VG regardless if he wants or not. sylar still has 2 months left under his VG contract. so, VG increased his trasnfer fee from 1.5million RMB to 4 million RMB and are barring him from playing first major.
Similar thing happen with paparazi when xiao8 wanted him in his team i.e. EHOME.
Burning said on weibo that he is ready to play the transfer fee of 4 million RMB or something for sylar but VG still doesnt want to let sylar go
SO the new destined team DK was Sylar, sccc, XXS, boboka and Lanm/fenrir
But, now with VG demanding more and more money, the rumor in chinese circle is that BurNing is himself considering playing position 1 for this team. Just a latest RUMOR.
so the team might be BurNing, sccc, Xxs, boboka, LaNm/fenrir.
But if sylar transfer goes through, then BurNing will be the owner of this team.
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Translations :- New place new beginning. Looking back at the past few years, we had times where we felt happy getting first places, and also had the times we felt sad where we lost at the first round of the tournaments. I will continue my career, and won't forget my heart/passion/dream when I first started.
some rumors on sgamer are saying that iceiceice is going to newbee.. along with ferrari_430 and hao as position 2 and 1.
EE just joined col with the lineup of:
EE Limmp Sneyking Zfreek Skemberlu
I thought this was a joke the first time I saw it. The t2 scene is gonna be brutal for people trying to assemble good players since so many of the t1 ones are sticking in their own teams
Translations :- New place new beginning. Looking back at the past few years, we had times where we felt happy getting first places, and also had the times we felt sad where we lost at the first round of the tournaments. I will continue my career, and won't forget my heart/passion/dream when I first started.
some rumors on sgamer are saying that iceiceice is going to newbee.. along with ferrari_430 and hao as position 2 and 1.
EE just joined col with the lineup of:
EE Limmp Sneyking Zfreek Skemberlu
I thought this was a joke the first time I saw it. The t2 scene is gonna be brutal for people trying to assemble good players since so many of the t1 ones are sticking in their own teams
I haven't seen official confirmation of it yet, but a lot of people seem to believe it
On September 08 2018 02:28 Batmankills wrote: update on the drama on chinese transfers currently happening.
BurNing wants sylar on DK and VG people are blaming DK for poaching players from backdoor without proper negotiations. so, they don't want to let sylar go. So, he has to stay on VG regardless if he wants or not. sylar still has 2 months left under his VG contract. so, VG increased his trasnfer fee from 1.5million RMB to 4 million RMB and are barring him from playing first major.
Similar thing happen with paparazi when xiao8 wanted him in his team i.e. EHOME.
Burning said on weibo that he is ready to play the transfer fee of 4 million RMB or something for sylar but VG still doesnt want to let sylar go
SO the new destined team DK was Sylar, sccc, XXS, boboka and Lanm/fenrir
But, now with VG demanding more and more money, the rumor in chinese circle is that BurNing is himself considering playing position 1 for this team. Just a latest RUMOR.
so the team might be BurNing, sccc, Xxs, boboka, LaNm/fenrir.
But if sylar transfer goes through, then BurNing will be the owner of this team.
No fenrir please. He is very weak in tie 1 team. Please get ahfu if LFY is still performaning low.
Translations :- New place new beginning. Looking back at the past few years, we had times where we felt happy getting first places, and also had the times we felt sad where we lost at the first round of the tournaments. I will continue my career, and won't forget my heart/passion/dream when I first started.
some rumors on sgamer are saying that iceiceice is going to newbee.. along with ferrari_430 and hao as position 2 and 1.
EE just joined col with the lineup of:
EE Limmp Sneyking Zfreek Skemberlu
I thought this was a joke the first time I saw it. The t2 scene is gonna be brutal for people trying to assemble good players since so many of the t1 ones are sticking in their own teams
I haven't seen official confirmation of it yet, but a lot of people seem to believe it
I think it's probably best for his career to move to pos 5. It's unlikely that he gets invited as a carry to a top team, so he somewhat has to become a better captain himself if he wants to get higher placings at TI. It may also influence how he ends up viewing the game as a drafter and caller. Will be interesting to see. But I wouldn't be surprised if he has some difficulty playing 5 in the beginning. They should still have a decent chance of getting to the major. With PPD's stack playing in EU the 3rd spot seems pretty wide open in NA. I guess the main competition is the Moo, Bryle, Forev, Milan and March team.
On September 12 2018 02:16 Sn0_Man wrote: The moostack doesn't even know what region they want to play in since they have to physically relocate players no matter what region they chose
They are playing in the NA opens for the first major at least. If some of them are playing with high ping still I guess they aren't quite as big a threat
Roles in order: Skem, Limmp, SneyKing, ZFreek, EternalEnvy
Scientists are unsure about position 5 EE.
He was originally the support for original NTH before EGM replaced him. He even won a tournament from it and popularized the style where supports stacks for their carry/mid.
He also managed to cause a patch where couriers no longer blocks neutral camps.
He was definitely managed to make it work but that was like 5 years ago. Not actually a fan of him being a support (as i wanted to see him play carry still) considering from what we have seen from him. He makes calls from the carry position.
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