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On March 08 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 17:32 Furikawari wrote:On March 08 2016 10:37 ch33psh33p wrote:
Its funny how we look at the most successful team post TI5 (by far I might add) and talk as if its been eons since they've won.
The expectations for this team are so stupidly high, probably even more so than Secret 2.0.
For once I agree with the LD writer: secret played like shit since the previous major, nobody reallistically saw them as winning material for this one. Yeah i actually expected them to go to lower bracket due to facing OG this tournament the first time the playoffs bracket were settled. Even before the Shanghai major i was thinking that top 6 or 8 might be their rmost realistic result but glad they proved me wrong.
There's a lot that can change in a month, which is the time there were almost none tournaments and teams were just practicing and bootcamping, on top they had 1437 back as a coach, which is HUGE. All of the expectations and statistics were severely outdated by the time the major started, Dota is very volatile game, maybe less so than Starcraft, but still a lot. For example all the predictions I read didn't bother to take the chinese NY into account, even though the story was the same at DAC last year and Ehome were crowned the favorites on the back of a 1 month old tournament taking place in China.
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Big win for EE, Team Secret, and their fans. Also, a bit of editing for these articles might not be a bad idea..
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On March 08 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 17:32 Furikawari wrote:On March 08 2016 10:37 ch33psh33p wrote:
Its funny how we look at the most successful team post TI5 (by far I might add) and talk as if its been eons since they've won.
The expectations for this team are so stupidly high, probably even more so than Secret 2.0.
For once I agree with the LD writer: secret played like shit since the previous major, nobody reallistically saw them as winning material for this one. Yeah i actually expected them to go to lower bracket due to facing OG this tournament the first time the playoffs bracket were settled. Even before the Shanghai major i was thinking that top 6 or 8 might be their rmost realistic result but glad they proved me wrong.
I thought disbanding was on the mind. This is a team that really grew into the tournament.
Pie and w33 though were kinda blindingly good. W33 once again had a comfort hero to show off on. Took some time to find it. Pie was like finding a new player. Contributed a ton to the team. Won them several major fights.
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On March 09 2016 06:51 Zaphid wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:On March 08 2016 17:32 Furikawari wrote:On March 08 2016 10:37 ch33psh33p wrote:
Its funny how we look at the most successful team post TI5 (by far I might add) and talk as if its been eons since they've won.
The expectations for this team are so stupidly high, probably even more so than Secret 2.0.
For once I agree with the LD writer: secret played like shit since the previous major, nobody reallistically saw them as winning material for this one. Yeah i actually expected them to go to lower bracket due to facing OG this tournament the first time the playoffs bracket were settled. Even before the Shanghai major i was thinking that top 6 or 8 might be their rmost realistic result but glad they proved me wrong. There's a lot that can change in a month, which is the time there were almost none tournaments and teams were just practicing and bootcamping, on top they had 1437 back as a coach, which is HUGE. All of the expectations and statistics were severely outdated by the time the major started, Dota is very volatile game, maybe less so than Starcraft, but still a lot. For example all the predictions I read didn't bother to take the chinese NY into account, even though the story was the same at DAC last year and Ehome were crowned the favorites on the back of a 1 month old tournament taking place in China.
Well past performance is one of the few things that we can use as a basis since we don't know what's happening inside the team. Another thing would be scrim reputation but we know that scrims kind of mean nothing sometimes. A good examples was Secret before TI5 where attrociously bad at scrims rtz mentioning zai going "0-15" in a game but they won like 4 tournaments straight and placed really high on all the others. EG too back with mason and the old all-star DK had a weird thing when whoever was losing between the two teams in scrims would win the official match.
There has been cases where the favorite which was the winner of the previous tournament also won the the next big tournament(alliance of ti3). And of course there's also been cases where the absolute favorite didn't do as well in the big tournament . Like IG before TI4, Secret before TI5 and now alliance/ehome for this shanghai major. (i mean both IG from TI4 and secret from ti5 placed 8th but it was kinda meh compared to the domination they did before TI)
On March 09 2016 12:40 Sabu113 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:On March 08 2016 17:32 Furikawari wrote:On March 08 2016 10:37 ch33psh33p wrote:
Its funny how we look at the most successful team post TI5 (by far I might add) and talk as if its been eons since they've won.
The expectations for this team are so stupidly high, probably even more so than Secret 2.0.
For once I agree with the LD writer: secret played like shit since the previous major, nobody reallistically saw them as winning material for this one. Yeah i actually expected them to go to lower bracket due to facing OG this tournament the first time the playoffs bracket were settled. Even before the Shanghai major i was thinking that top 6 or 8 might be their rmost realistic result but glad they proved me wrong. I thought disbanding was on the mind. This is a team that really grew into the tournament. Pie and w33 though were kinda blindingly good. W33 once again had a comfort hero to show off on. Took some time to find it. Pie was like finding a new player. Contributed a ton to the team. Won them several major fights.
Well when they were absolutely getting dumsptered yeah i thought they are bound to disband but i think before Shanghai there was some tournament where they got 4th place which was clear that they recovered abit from the shitty form they had which gave me hope that they could at least place top 8.
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Grats to Secret. PLD definitely shone with his Lion plays and Puppey was a formidable player/captain as always.
Even though I was cheering against them the whole way I couldnt help but be glad that they gave us some really good games.
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Good stuff from Puppey and pals, my second favorite team right now. They got stronger over the course of the tournament while EG started unusually strong and faltered toward the end.
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that was a great read, good job with the entire coverage, loved all of them!
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I don't think anyone but people who want a Korean or Russian major really won this major
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Games were actually fun, everything else ugh.
A Russian major would be cool, guys seem to love their dota 
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Excited to see a reinvigorated Liquid at Epicenter
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