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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-21 00:49:42
April 21 2023 00:11 GMT
#211461
https://www.dota2.com/newfrontiers?tg_rhash=a8aa3892b2f818

This patch is insane. Basically 8.00 or Dota 3 in all but name. Valve trying to ensure Dota also gets the CS2 treatment.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34492 Posts
April 21 2023 02:18 GMT
#211462
Holy hell
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 21 2023 02:39 GMT
#211463
Holy hell
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 21 2023 04:18 GMT
#211464
Finals of dreamleague are gonna be funny
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
April 21 2023 08:58 GMT
#211465
Well, they have one day to adjust. No problem there
There can only be one Geisterkarle
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
April 21 2023 09:45 GMT
#211466
Huge update, dreamleague playoffs gonna be fun
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-21 10:12:29
April 21 2023 10:11 GMT
#211467
Dann how high was the team that wrote this update article and who tf signed off on it?

I also feel this is a belated April fools
passive quaranstream fan
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
April 21 2023 10:22 GMT
#211468
I read a bit of the patch and watched some people play, but just now watched the trailer.
So basically the "lore" of this patch is: Radiant and Dire destroyed their Ancients at the same time and that unbelievable event triggered an epic earthquake, that changed the landscape! :D
There can only be one Geisterkarle
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4554 Posts
April 21 2023 12:17 GMT
#211469
On April 21 2023 19:22 Geisterkarle wrote:
I read a bit of the patch and watched some people play, but just now watched the trailer.
So basically the "lore" of this patch is: Radiant and Dire destroyed their Ancients at the same time and that unbelievable event triggered an epic earthquake, that changed the landscape! :D


Still better than somehow Palpatine returned.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
April 21 2023 13:48 GMT
#211470
the new map is absolutely wild man
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 21 2023 14:12 GMT
#211471
On April 21 2023 19:11 Artisreal wrote:
Dann how high was the team that wrote this update article and who tf signed off on it?

I also feel this is a belated April fools

It's unusually casual and lighthearted by Dota patch writing standards. I've read peoples' comments that Valve wrote the TF2 blogs and patch notes like this, so maybe taking a cue from those.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
April 21 2023 14:59 GMT
#211472
pro games tonight will be fun to watch
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 21 2023 19:32 GMT
#211473
wtf is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
April 21 2023 20:16 GMT
#211474
On April 21 2023 23:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2023 19:11 Artisreal wrote:
Dann how high was the team that wrote this update article and who tf signed off on it?

I also feel this is a belated April fools

It's unusually casual and lighthearted by Dota patch writing standards. I've read peoples' comments that Valve wrote the TF2 blogs and patch notes like this, so maybe taking a cue from those.

That's kinda reassuring to know.

I find lighthearted to quite accurately reflect how I feel about the style, yeah that fits it nicely from my perspective.
passive quaranstream fan
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-22 07:18:34
April 22 2023 01:24 GMT
#211475
Welp they got me to reinstall. There are too many changes to even really begin to comment but I think I like the bkb nerf??
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-22 01:29:05
April 22 2023 01:26 GMT
#211476
On April 22 2023 05:16 Artisreal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2023 23:12 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On April 21 2023 19:11 Artisreal wrote:
Dann how high was the team that wrote this update article and who tf signed off on it?

I also feel this is a belated April fools

It's unusually casual and lighthearted by Dota patch writing standards. I've read peoples' comments that Valve wrote the TF2 blogs and patch notes like this, so maybe taking a cue from those.

That's kinda reassuring to know.

I find lighthearted to quite accurately reflect how I feel about the style, yeah that fits it nicely from my perspective.

"Let's be honest, 99.9% of dota players are bad" lol

That's the kind of refreshing honesty that we don't often see from our media overlords
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2571 Posts
April 22 2023 03:59 GMT
#211477
I'm a bit worried making the map bigger will slow games down and pull them apart. Have played a few games, and greedy as fuck supports seem okay, because the map is too big to choke out, you and your core just play evasive, farm up, and win later. Not looking forward to it if that IS good, pos5 farming alche games sound amusing at first but 5 games in I'll be over it.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 22 2023 19:11 GMT
#211478
UNDESIRED CLUMPING: THE WORST KIND OF CLUMPING
Dota has traditionally used a modified version of the Elo algorithm to implement Rank and Rank Confidence changes. But over time we've noticed a few problems with our approach. For one example, the distribution of MMRs has gradually shifted lower, causing an undesired clumping in the 0-1000 MMR range. Another problem was that players who took a break and returned were having a hard time getting back to an accurate MMR, because their previous skill level was no longer representative.

Valve confirms the Trench is real.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 22 2023 20:23 GMT
#211479
is rtz now no longer bound by the 3g curse? we will find out tomorrow
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Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-23 02:06:35
April 23 2023 02:02 GMT
#211480
On April 22 2023 12:59 Fleetfeet wrote:
I'm a bit worried making the map bigger will slow games down and pull them apart. Have played a few games, and greedy as fuck supports seem okay, because the map is too big to choke out, you and your core just play evasive, farm up, and win later. Not looking forward to it if that IS good, pos5 farming alche games sound amusing at first but 5 games in I'll be over it.

At least for now that is the exact opposite of what is happening. Game is nothing but one long brawl it seems with the reduced vision on the map/many approaches to ganks and the teleporters.

Also, I just want this damn game to calibrate me. I took like a month off of the game prior to the patch so I came in at 0% confidence and am only getting 1-2% per game. Have played in games with legend 5s and 1800-2000 Immortals.
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