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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 31 2021 11:17 GMT
#207821
I got an overwatch case where a team was losing 2-30 at 15 minutes into the game, 2 rax down, everyone on the team was roughly 0-6 or 0-8 or so, and the mid SF was 1-6 or something. No one had any significant items or counterplay and the game was obviously over. At 15 minutes the mid SF sold his boots, bottle and wraith band so he could afford Shadow Amulet. I couldn't watch after but the game ended 2-3 minutes later, and presumably he afk'd invisible in the fountain.

Would you have reported him for griefing/intentional feeding there?
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 31 2021 11:29 GMT
#207822
no way

i had a 2-18 skywrath who got reported for scripting lmfao
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 31 2021 12:21 GMT
#207823
Def no
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-31 13:30:27
January 31 2021 13:30 GMT
#207824
I ended up voting yes because I'd rather he not sell all his stuff and it's probably a sign that he does it in other games, but eh it was a very weak report, I wouldn't want him banned for it

Just put on probation maybe
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 31 2021 14:03 GMT
#207825
I think the guy reporting his teammates in a 2-30 stomp should be banned lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 31 2021 17:03 GMT
#207826
On January 31 2021 23:03 PassiveAce wrote:
I think the guy reporting his teammates in a 2-30 stomp should be banned lol

I agree
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-31 21:37:56
January 31 2021 21:37 GMT
#207827
idk havent found a single ban worthy report tbh
just bad players being bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-31 22:26:00
January 31 2021 22:25 GMT
#207828
Do you guys view bad/meme builds as reportable in ranked? I usually only care to report someone if theyr being a huge dick in chat or actively griefing (feeding, tossing teammates into towers, etc)
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 31 2021 23:01 GMT
#207829
On February 01 2021 07:25 PassiveAce wrote:
Do you guys view bad/meme builds as reportable in ranked? I usually only care to report someone if theyr being a huge dick in chat or actively griefing (feeding, tossing teammates into towers, etc)

Is this really even a question? 1000% is a bad build not reportable, come on dude.
super gg
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 31 2021 23:36 GMT
#207830
I went refresher am rush on ranked for about 15 games in a row a few years ago and I didn't even lose behavior points. I also lost all the games.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 31 2021 23:39 GMT
#207831
id report u
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 01 2021 00:11 GMT
#207832
If you report a refresher skeleton you will be cursed for 3 generations
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
OfficeRefurbishment
Profile Joined February 2021
1 Post
February 01 2021 02:26 GMT
#207833
hi
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-01 03:41:51
February 01 2021 03:41 GMT
#207834
hi friend, how r u ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
February 01 2021 10:41 GMT
#207835
On January 31 2021 20:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
I got an overwatch case where a team was losing 2-30 at 15 minutes into the game, 2 rax down, everyone on the team was roughly 0-6 or 0-8 or so, and the mid SF was 1-6 or something. No one had any significant items or counterplay and the game was obviously over. At 15 minutes the mid SF sold his boots, bottle and wraith band so he could afford Shadow Amulet. I couldn't watch after but the game ended 2-3 minutes later, and presumably he afk'd invisible in the fountain.

Would you have reported him for griefing/intentional feeding there?


Technically, yes. That's why this system is so absurd. There isn't much room for gray areas yet there are more than enough that could be named. Let's say you have someone screaming at you and doing virtually everything that they can to make your game horrible, so you go afk. Are you the bad guy? Yes. They might be the bad guy as well, but there's no room left for "it wasn't a bad deal" or "obviously reporting for this is absurd".
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
February 01 2021 11:02 GMT
#207836
Ya I really don't like the black and white 'guilty or not guilty' options. Were they flaming him all game? Was he flaming back? All I know was that everyone on the team was doing shit in a completely lost game that was 2 minutes away from over. Not like an SF can turn that game around.

But technically, the definition they use for griefing includes 'selling/destroying items' so I had no choice to vote yes.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-01 16:53:09
February 01 2021 14:00 GMT
#207837
On February 01 2021 20:02 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ya I really don't like the black and white 'guilty or not guilty' options. Were they flaming him all game? Was he flaming back? All I know was that everyone on the team was doing shit in a completely lost game that was 2 minutes away from over. Not like an SF can turn that game around.

But technically, the definition they use for griefing includes 'selling/destroying items' so I had no choice to vote yes.

Funny enough, this problem is pretty similar to a dynamic I see a lot in my reading for law school. A lower court will feel like it has to use a strict application of a rule that winds up causing an obviously unjust result. Except in law there's usually a higher court to reinterpret the rule to get a better result :p
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-01 16:58:12
February 01 2021 16:57 GMT
#207838
On February 01 2021 20:02 Firebolt145 wrote:
Ya I really don't like the black and white 'guilty or not guilty' options. Were they flaming him all game? Was he flaming back? All I know was that everyone on the team was doing shit in a completely lost game that was 2 minutes away from over. Not like an SF can turn that game around.

But technically, the definition they use for griefing includes 'selling/destroying items' so I had no choice to vote yes.

Why do you think humans are reviewing the cases ? If somebody destroys all their items while the throne is dying that doesn't mean u should vote yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 01 2021 17:44 GMT
#207839
gotta hate it but agree with erasme
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 01 2021 18:28 GMT
#207840
Guys, I think it's time for Dota 3. Hear me out, I know it sounds like a meme.

There's a fuckton of fluff and bloat in the game. Talents, neutral items, outposts, aghanims shard,,backpack slots. All that is just change for the sake of change. They have to do stuff like this otherwise the game gets stale. But the game is so in-elegant right now. It's even bad for watching the game, nobody remembers all the talents in the game. I don't even know the new neutral items from the recent update.

Dota 3 would allow Valve to slim the game down. And at the same time blow it all up and do gigantic changes to concept they haven't ever touched. Keep the visuals and cosmetic items, but change the fundamentals of the game. Change the way the inventory works, maybe you don't have 6 slots, but you have a head slots, body slot, like in RPGs. (Obviously not exactly that, but something of that magnuitude, you get it) Get rid of Agi, Str, Int and replace it all with a new system. and most importantly, remove all that bullshit bloat I talked about. I would love that.
super gg
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