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DE3me
Germany263 Posts
On October 21 2014 08:54 Jaaaaasper wrote: Meanwhile Solo never actually got punished for creating the term 322 The problem with all the punishment shouts is that there is no one organziation that overlooks the punishment and as we could see in the case of Solo, the punishment was full of loopholes that way. | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On October 21 2014 10:04 Jaaaaasper wrote: Yup Solo, Saviour,and all the rest were very sorry that they got caught as well Savior never confessed nor apologized. | ||
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
The difference is it's a criminal offense and you can go to prison if you're caught. So yeah this is a very serious problem. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On October 21 2014 18:12 Vadrigar wrote: Matchfixing happens in football as well. It probably happens in any sport involved in betting and betting is HUGE in Europe, as well the rest of the world I'd assume. The difference is it's a criminal offense and you can go to prison if you're caught. So yeah this is a very serious problem. In fact match fixing in European football comes from SEA in most cases I've heard of. | ||
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On October 21 2014 23:14 nojok wrote: In fact match fixing in European football comes from SEA in most cases I've heard of. East Asia and SEA are the biggest gambling centers/populations in the world | ||
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villainzilla
Philippines192 Posts
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
Also, we never saw Savior play again and that is such a sad waste of talent. But Solo got away way too easy. Something like a 1 or 2 year ban for matchfixing sounds fair. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
Here we go, now it has been discoved all five Arrow members participated in match-fixing. Jaren knew it and tried to put all blame on Lance, ddz and their gf. None of them should get second chance. | ||
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Angeloidus
Russian Federation251 Posts
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
I honestly hope at this point Valve steps in and just bans his ass from DotA 2 and end this. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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CountChocula
Canada2068 Posts
On October 22 2014 02:54 ForTehDarkseid wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2jw5ki/my_findings_on_the_arrowjaren_case/ Here we go, now it has been discoved all five Arrow members participated in match-fixing. Jaren knew it and tried to put all blame on Lance, ddz and their gf. None of them should get second chance. honestly, that article doesn't present anything new. all it does is try to make jaren out to be the bad guy even though he seems to have found out about the matchfixing at the same time as everyone else. it's just a ruse to deflect blame away from ddz+lance who were the ones to actually commit the crime. p.s. jaren is using fake iG facebook page for ad moneys (how is this relevant for anything besides character assassination?) p.p.s. jaren hates puppies it's amazing how the article's spin has managed to convince r/dota2 csheeple | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
On October 22 2014 05:55 CountChocula wrote: honestly, that article doesn't present anything new. all it does is try to make jaren out to be the bad guy even though he seems to have found out about the matchfixing along with everyone else, and deflect blame away from ddz+lance who were the ones to actually commit the crime. p.s. jaren is using fake iG facebook page for ad moneys (how is this relevant for anything besides character assassination?) p.p.s. jaren hates puppies it's amazing how the article's spin has managed to convince r/dota2 csheeple This x 1000. I posted literally the same thing on reddit, but it doesnt matter, the pitchforks are out in full force. But then again, reddit is not known for being the most intelligent site on the internet. Its always the case that managers/organizers/casters take a lot more flak than the actual players, even if they commit lesser crimes. I remember the way the SC2 community castrated -Orb- for using "nigger" as an epithet in a random ladder game and pretty much destroyed his streaming/casting career. While much more famous players like IdrA routinely got free passes and were worshipped, while being pretty much the most abusive person in the SC2 community until Alex Garfield finally had enough. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
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Acti
Portugal61 Posts
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On October 22 2014 06:07 Piledriver wrote: This x 1000. I posted literally the same thing on reddit, but it doesnt matter, the pitchforks are out in full force. But then again, reddit is not known for being the most intelligent site on the internet. Its always the case that managers/organizers/casters take a lot more flak than the actual players, even if they commit lesser crimes. I remember the way the SC2 community castrated -Orb- for using "nigger" as an epithet in a random ladder game and pretty much destroyed his streaming/casting career. While much more famous players like IdrA routinely got free passes and were worshipped, while being pretty much the most abusive person in the SC2 community until Alex Garfield finally had enough. Yup. Gotta agree with this statement. While Jaren seemed like a dick and probably not the best character, DDZ, Lance and the rest of Arrow were the ones to actually commit the crime. Hope they are actually punished here. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Savior never confessed to fixing his own games, and as far as memory serves me, that part was never proven either. | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
What I often find most deplorable is their attempt to apologize. More often than not (in my opinion), they are not apologizing for what they did. They are apologizing that they were caught. With that said, I do not think there should be lifetime bans. Maybe cater it toward the crime, so a more financial sort of punishment. For example, if they got items, have them given to some mediator or the tournament and if not willing to do that, they are banned. | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On October 22 2014 02:54 ForTehDarkseid wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2jw5ki/my_findings_on_the_arrowjaren_case/ Here we go, now it has been discoved all five Arrow members participated in match-fixing. Jaren knew it and tried to put all blame on Lance, ddz and their gf. None of them should get second chance. So if Arrow wanted to matchfix on their own accord, how did the Vallejos guy get tipped off to make the large bets? | ||
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