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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 29 2014 00:17 GMT
#481
I'm pretty sure disable screen shake was a menu option before this existed.
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
January 29 2014 00:24 GMT
#482
anyone know what was in the 40mb test patch?
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 29 2014 00:28 GMT
#483
On January 29 2014 08:51 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 07:50 Kipsate wrote:
the model sucks if you compare it to illidan
its like medusa when you compare it to lady vasjh/naga sea witch


To be fair though, everything sucks when compared to Illidan model.


[image loading]

I think we have some rose-tinted glasses going on here
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 29 2014 00:30 GMT
#484
On January 29 2014 09:28 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 08:51 Harem wrote:
On January 29 2014 07:50 Kipsate wrote:
the model sucks if you compare it to illidan
its like medusa when you compare it to lady vasjh/naga sea witch


To be fair though, everything sucks when compared to Illidan model.


[image loading]

I think we have some rose-tinted glasses going on here

I like how he has pandas on his blades, its shows his sensitive side.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 29 2014 00:34 GMT
#485
That's the wrong Illidan model. The one used for TB is the one with the demon wings.
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 00:36:47
January 29 2014 00:35 GMT
#486
that's the ladder illidan "demon hunter" model

[image loading]
is the model he's talking about
still has the pandas tho
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 29 2014 00:38 GMT
#487
Note how the pandas are angrier for the transformed Illidan.
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Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
January 29 2014 00:40 GMT
#488
On January 29 2014 09:09 TheYango wrote:
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On January 29 2014 08:20 Hagen0 wrote:
Depends on the game. Usually I'd go for one level of Refelction and max Conjure Image and Metamorphosis. If you have a 1vs1 in lane maxing Reflection is better since it reduces the cooldown. Many heroes won't even be able to lane against you.

Conjure Image isn't strong until you have maxed Metamorphosis + 1-2 major items. I wouldn't max it 2nd unless you're really ahead.



You usually know what you are talking about so maybe I'm wrong.

Having said that I disagree completely. You should have maxed Conjure Image by Lvl 9/10 at the latest. A max level Image with say a Yasha can solo any jungle camp which is amazing for flash farming. Even without the Yasha they can solo the easier camps or speed up your farming in general by a lot. You can easily do Ancients with your hero + 1 image, letting the image tank.

You also absolutely melt towers with two meta'd Images and your hero.

Maxing Meta before Conjure Image is fine but Reflection>Meta>Image is just too slow I feel. It also hurts your farming.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 29 2014 00:48 GMT
#489
Conjure Image is unquestionably the better farming skill, but I don't think the pace of DotA as it stands lets you take advantage of that. Carries in the current version of DotA need to have fighting skills and need to level their fighting skills. As a fighting skill, Conjure Image does nothing before you have both a damage item and an HP source so that the images don't die to random AoE.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 00:51:06
January 29 2014 00:50 GMT
#490
On January 29 2014 09:48 TheYango wrote:
Conjure Image is unquestionably the better farming skill, but I don't think the pace of DotA as it stands lets you take advantage of that. Carries in the current version of DotA need to have fighting skills and need to level their fighting skills. As a fighting skill, Conjure Image does nothing before you have both a damage item and an HP source so that the images don't die to random AoE.


Well I guess the question then is what do you prioritize? I feel like his metamorphosis is the best skill for him if you want to fight early, since he still has a pretty low hp pool.
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Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 00:59:19
January 29 2014 00:55 GMT
#491
Conjure Image is also a better fighting skill than Reflection past the first rank. Obviously early on you can only really fight with meta up. Since meta'd images are ranged they are a bit less prone to catching incidental aoe than melee images. They still die rather easily to heavy aoe but I wouldn't pick TB against good aoe anyway. Damage however isn't a problem at all. A meta'd image hits harder than most heroes.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
January 29 2014 01:03 GMT
#492
I think the Terrorblade model looks pretty good. I am too used to Illidan's attack stance though. Him standing up seems a bit awkward for me lol.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 01:30:00
January 29 2014 01:29 GMT
#493
Not entirely sure why TB gets so much hype, a hero who relies heavily on farming and one of those worst heroes to play in an disadvantaged game. Model is well made though, love that they keep the fire trails, other than that he used to be a fun pub hero if you know how to use his soul steal ability but now with his skillset he will probably go safelane and be completely useless when team didnt win at 4v5 already. SnY/Manta+Skadi should still be his cores.

Phoenix on the other hand will be the new kaolin, jesus christ that hero.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
January 29 2014 01:33 GMT
#494
Takeover mode could be pretty fun for TI4 compendium matches. A ton of potential there and if they make it duration based it's pretty much a mini game.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 29 2014 01:35 GMT
#495
I don't like the model at all.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 01:59:43
January 29 2014 01:59 GMT
#496
i think the terrorblade looks to much like doom. 2 horns similar shaped with wings. Still cool, but not inspiring, the feniks is awesome tho.
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Hagen0
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany765 Posts
January 29 2014 02:00 GMT
#497
On January 29 2014 10:29 BurningSera wrote:
Not entirely sure why TB gets so much hype, a hero who relies heavily on farming and one of those worst heroes to play in an disadvantaged game. Model is well made though, love that they keep the fire trails, other than that he used to be a fun pub hero if you know how to use his soul steal ability but now with his skillset he will probably go safelane and be completely useless when team didnt win at 4v5 already. SnY/Manta+Skadi should still be his cores.

Phoenix on the other hand will be the new kaolin, jesus christ that hero.


You are underselling TB a bit. He pushes very hard with just an S&Y or Manta, you'd could potentially play him in a pushing linep. He is also a decent split pusher lategame. Similar to Naga though not quite as good. If you are behind there is a chance that you can rat it out.

But yeah, Phoenix is way stronger.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 29 2014 02:05 GMT
#498
TB isn't the hero he was a few years ago. With the new Metamorphosis and Reflection he isn't as useless early on.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
January 29 2014 02:08 GMT
#499
TB seems like a pretty nuts pusher, if you max metamorphos and image. He seems to be based a lot around his metamorphos ability and cd, while it's up you can push/gank while it's down you just sit back and farm.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
January 29 2014 02:09 GMT
#500
On January 29 2014 11:05 SKC wrote:
TB isn't the hero he was a few years ago. With the new Metamorphosis and Reflection he isn't as useless early on.

how was he useless before? he had passive regen with zeal and metamorph had a shorter cooldown
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