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Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
January 28 2014 21:49 GMT
#441
On January 29 2014 05:54 FFGenerations wrote:


I don't think this guy really understands how to use Phoenix.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
January 28 2014 21:49 GMT
#442
This patch seems amazing with all these new heroes and changes which I like.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 28 2014 21:52 GMT
#443
phoenix

NO

PLEASE NO NO
WriterXiao8~~
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 28 2014 21:54 GMT
#444
On January 29 2014 06:52 Kipsate wrote:
phoenix

NO

PLEASE NO NO

He's been nerfed a lot.

I'm going to tank my rating and play morph a lot this patch.
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xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
January 28 2014 21:54 GMT
#445
On January 29 2014 06:16 Bisu-Fan wrote:
also, the burning footprints so good, but won't that give away locations during chasing? :o


Burning footprints are visible to allies only afaik
xsevR
Profile Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 22:06:47
January 28 2014 21:56 GMT
#446
On January 29 2014 06:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Wait terrorblade has a WORSE BAT in metamorphosis?

wiki says his normal BAT is 1.5 but metamorphed is 1.6, is this accurate?


Regular WC3 DH ult had reduced BAT, but I don't think it was like this in dota.

Demon Hunter has a BAT of 1.7 and metamorphed its 1.6... Illidan's BAT is 1.5, so metamorph nerfs his BAT rather than buffs it.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
January 28 2014 21:58 GMT
#447
On January 29 2014 06:39 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 06:33 fezvez wrote:
I don't know if it was worth it to do the replay thing.

I have used it exactly once in SC2. It's cute, but overall, not good. I don't want to take the replay of a pro, he has a different hotkey system, and I don't want both of us to spend 10 seconds remapping all the command groups. Plus, you don't really get a feel for the game if you didn't play it. You don't really know how precisely your sim city is. You don't really know exactly where your army was going, what timing you were trying to nail, etc...

Replay thing was a very very useful thing in SC2 because when you DC, you lose. Valve's very intelligent implementation of disconnecting/reconnecting makes the resume from replay only useful if you really want to replay some pros. Which in fact, never happens.

Nothing that you mentioned exists in Dota 2, and you don't know how much work it took them to do it. It's still useful even in pro games, when you have issues like server crashes or people unable to reconnect. A save game feature already existed and it was used ocasionally, but it was a bit buggy. This shows both that the feature isn't useless and that it either already partially existed or that the current system needed a rework.


Erm? The only thing I mentionned about Dota 2 is that you could reconnect (as opposed to SC2). If you say that in Dota 2, you don't have to rebind, I agree, but you still don't know whether you were supposed to farm a bit more, or go gank immediately.

But I agree, server crashes (these happen?) and players unable to reconnect make the feature potentially useful.

It's not because I don't know how much work it takes that I automatically have to agree with everything that is added. I could have bitched and moaned about anything in the Dota 2 bug list
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 22:00:35
January 28 2014 22:00 GMT
#448
On January 29 2014 06:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Wait terrorblade has a WORSE BAT in metamorphosis?

wiki says his normal BAT is 1.5 but metamorphed is 1.6, is this accurate?

Yup. Note 1.5 BAT is extremely good and came from the illidan models. 1.6 bat (also really good) for a ranged attack is quite strong.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 28 2014 22:01 GMT
#449
I know how bats r. Just didn't realize terrorblade was one of the few with nonstandard bat. I originally read the metamorph and thought it was like pretty insane cuz it improved his bat lol.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
KnT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia243 Posts
January 28 2014 22:14 GMT
#450
This may be a really dumb question, but what is BAT?
I played a PvP last night, he had stalkers I had stalkers they both shot laser. I lasered harder and won.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 28 2014 22:15 GMT
#451
On January 29 2014 07:14 KnT wrote:
This may be a really dumb question, but what is BAT?

Base attack time, the lower you BAT, the faster you attack.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 28 2014 22:23 GMT
#452
wat SKC said.
+ Show Spoiler [In-depth BAT explanation] +
The term "Increased Attack Speed" (IAS) is intuitive, but also relative. How fast does one attack before it is increased?

The answer is the "Base Attack Time", commonly called BAT, which for most heroes is 1.7 (seconds). So most heroes take 1.7 seconds to attack with no modifiers to their attack speed. Now, no hero has "no modifiers to their attack speed" because the inherent agility that you get at level 1 counts as IAS, for example. Note that IAS is always a "%" since it always refers to a percentage of the BAT.

A hero with exactly 100% IAS will attack twice every BAT, so usually every .85 seconds. Alchemist in level 3 chemical rage however would attack every .5 seconds because his BAT in his level 3 ulti is 1.0.

Etc etc. Its not actually that hard to grasp.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
January 28 2014 22:24 GMT
#453
Bunker
Build time reduced by 5 seconds
+
Sniper
Take Aim range bonus increased from 80/160/240/320 to 100/200/300/400

Is imba! Put down a bunker close to mid tower and sniper in it and see if you can get last hits
"Yeah buddy"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 28 2014 22:26 GMT
#454
Base attack speed
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
January 28 2014 22:29 GMT
#455
So he is no longer phaseless void?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
January 28 2014 22:31 GMT
#456
Volvo you glorious bastards.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 28 2014 22:39 GMT
#457
holy shit terrorblade's model sucks.
WriterXiao8~~
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
January 28 2014 22:42 GMT
#458
yeah i was hyped for that terrorblade until ive finally seen his model.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 28 2014 22:45 GMT
#459
I think their models look fucking amazing.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
January 28 2014 22:45 GMT
#460
On January 29 2014 06:52 Kipsate wrote:
phoenix

NO

PLEASE NO NO


I used to never get angry at DotA, until I encountered Fire Spirits.

I USED TO BE SUCH A NICE KID
ffxiv enjoyer
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