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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 18 2013 06:29 NovaTheFeared wrote: Blizzard implementing the RMAH was clearly a money grab. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you. guess it will go back to eBay being the money grabber, and taking more of your money than Blizzard did. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On September 18 2013 06:33 Plansix wrote: Did I say that? No I did. I just pointed out that no one sets out for make a bad game or a feature everyone hates. Even the suites do not plan to make shitty features noone likes. Nonsense. CEO's, investors, market analysts, etc. try to estimate how much they can push on the consumer as long as it still makes them money and increases their stock prices. The suits don't plan on make shitty features no one likes, but if they're features that are extremely irritating but still increase profits they'll demand it in a heartbeat. Not entirely sure how I feel about AH being removed. It was certainly convenient. However, if the choice is between good itemization and good drop rates, or having an AH, I will take the former in a heartbeat. Either way, I'm surprised about this decision and at least happy that the push-back consumers has caused several 180's in Blizzard's stance on D3's design. Makes me hopeful that Blizzard is going to be a quality-first company again. | ||
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
On September 18 2013 05:56 rd wrote: Because the AH is a conflicting feature to what the D2 experience really is, which is finding items, not grinding gold and then buying them. And they're not appeasing a few people, they're appeasing anyone who has ever played and enjoyed Diablo 2, whether or not those players even realize it. If this change is that significant to cause you to quit, well then its possible the Diablo franchise was never going to appeal to you anyways. These are the common experiences of finding and trading items in D2. Unlike D3, PoE actually stuck to the D2 formula which has been so widely successful in so many other games (I don't know if D2 copied something from somewhere else but they sure as hell popularized the shit out of it) Well here is the thing. D2 was an awful game (please don't lynch me), and people really shouldn't stick to a old game, that was lackluster, to set the standard for what games of this genre should be like now. By that same logic, the games that we have now should be no better than games we had in 1998, graphics and all, because being innovative and coming up with cool new ideas is bound to get you hated for everyone with a tiny bit of nostalgia. That's the only problem D3 really had, was that people basically wanted a trip down memory lane and an HD D2, which Blizzard doesn't do, and always tries to innovate. But the community hated on them for it, and now they have to remove the single best feature in D3, and in ARPG's in general, because they are afraid of losing a few hardcore fans. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On September 18 2013 06:42 dAPhREAk wrote: guess it will go back to eBay being the money grabber, and taking more of your money than Blizzard did. Blizz got 0 dollars from me, I refunded D3. That's how badly the game sucked. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 18 2013 06:56 NovaTheFeared wrote: Blizz got 0 dollars from me, I refunded D3. That's how badly the game sucked. thank you for pointing that out. incredibly insightful. | ||
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
On September 18 2013 06:57 dAPhREAk wrote: thank you for pointing that out. incredibly insightful. You're welcome. | ||
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On September 18 2013 06:50 masterbreti wrote: Well here is the thing. D2 was an awful game, and people really shouldn't stick to a old game, that was lackluster, to set the standard for what games of this genre should be like now. By that same logic, the games that we have now should be no better than games we had in 1998, graphics and all, because being innovative and coming up with cool new ideas is bound to get you hated for everyone with a tiny bit of nostalgia. That's the only problem D3 really had, was that people basically wanted a trip down memory lane and an HD D2, which Blizzard doesn't do, and always tries to innovate. But the community hated on them for it, and now they have to remove the single best feature in D3, and in ARPG's in general, because they are afraid of losing a few hardcore fans. You have to be extremely naive to believe this decision has anything to do with a "few hardcore fans". This is a major overhaul and change to the entire game's financial structure, and not something CEOs, stockholders and investors would remotely consider unless there was substantial blow-black and if analysts/designers were able to pitch a convincing argument in favour of completely scrapping the system. Like it or not, Blizzard felt the AH/RMAH was hurting their game. Whether it was reputation, future sales, investment interest, or a little of each. Which means you're in the minority, because there was enough opposition to make the company backpedal hard. | ||
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TArujo
Portugal1687 Posts
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Gourmand
Canada101 Posts
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CruelZeratul
Germany4588 Posts
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stink123
United States241 Posts
Another note, unlike Diablo 2, gold will still have worth. Even in d2, gold had value, it was just impossible to trade with due to the limit to how much gold you could carry. iirc, the usual price on d2jsp was around 1 fg per million, but having to have multiple characters to carry past the gold limit really killed trading with it. Also, I can see someone setting up a D3 exchange, listing out current prices of items in gold, similar to POE. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On September 18 2013 07:38 Gourmand wrote: Sooooo, will it close before or after Reaper of Souls release? probs before cause loot 2.0 was supposed to happen before the expansion | ||
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DinoToss
Poland507 Posts
On September 18 2013 06:50 masterbreti wrote: Well here is the thing. D2 was an awful game (please don't lynch me), and people really shouldn't stick to a old game, that was lackluster, to set the standard for what games of this genre should be like now. By that same logic, the games that we have now should be no better than games we had in 1998, graphics and all, because being innovative and coming up with cool new ideas is bound to get you hated for everyone with a tiny bit of nostalgia. That's the only problem D3 really had, was that people basically wanted a trip down memory lane and an HD D2, which Blizzard doesn't do, and always tries to innovate. But the community hated on them for it, and now they have to remove the single best feature in D3, and in ARPG's in general, because they are afraid of losing a few hardcore fans. This post is a joke or actually serious? I think you got few things wrong. The few hardcore fans ARE NOW IN GAME. Those hardcore fans spend houndred of hours pillaging fields of misery for random 2 billion item to never drop. So they can get money. Sane people left the game because they caught the wind of that. You got it backwards. | ||
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Wuiph
Austria28 Posts
It´s all about finding the sweet spot in loot as well. If some of you played Diablo 1 for example you could get the best in slot legendaries (which were without any randomisation) in 10 hours of Lazarus runs. My hope would be that on average you would have to do like 10 full playthroughs per Monsterpower to be strong enough for the next one, obviously increasing exponentionally so farming comfortably in MP10 would take like 3-4 month of hourlong sessions. | ||
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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sns3rsam
United States138 Posts
RoS looks a lot better now, I might actually buy it haha | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
Lol did you guys see the price of emeralds, shot up by 200% :D | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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