EPTD3 Auction Houses close 3-18-2014 - Page 5
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Butcherski
Poland446 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
 Sad to see that one of the things that made D3 better than D2 for me is going away. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
auction house certainly removed the fun of some things and self found items were basically useless if you had some gold from another character to setup a new one but still this is really tedious. The tradehouse removed the fun of self finding stuff but it also had the fun of searching for upgrades, trading for profit, sniping deals etc. It also makes it possible to do specialized builds which are near impossible without an effective trading system to get together without using sites, like ranged barbarian etc. I applaud them a lot for taking this decision as it's hard to basically admit going back to basic might be better and they lose a source of income from the RMAH but I don't think this was needed. They could have made other restrictions imo, for example AH could only be possible for lvl 70+ items in the expo so you still need to selffind etc. while you level. Or some restrictions could be made that trading would only be for toplevel items so most of the selffound things would still be good till you reach very lategame, for example minimum trading fee of 10 mill for items. Also selffound should have been promoted by letting loot favor the character more, more main attribute etc. Now without trading selffound loot will be most of it but on the other hand finding stuff that is not useful for your character will be more annoying. I didn't like D3 much but some of the fun I had was finding great stuff suitable for other characters and then selling it and getting lots of deals and snipes for my own character. I couldn't really be arsed to spend lots of time just to sell my awesome item i can't use myself and even worse perhaps, not having a general currency which is useful. If they do this they at least need to make sure gold becomes a good trading currency by giving it lots of other good uses, like letting ingame vendors actually sell good stuff, making creating weapons better etc. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On September 18 2013 10:17 justiceknight wrote: so its time to spend my 1b on "i dunno what to invest" items now? Or wait and see what gold will be used on. They won't suddenly make gold completely worthless. Gems are probably a pretty safe investment though. EDIT: Also, I told you all that blizz fixes shit in the expansions. RoS is going to be flawlessly like D2, but better. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
The biggest problem with it was that it provided everybody with an incentive to dump their old items back on the market once they get upgrades. And dump good drops that weren't upgrades on the market. This created an increasing baseline where every new character, whether by a new or experienced player, could buy a good starting set almost for free. That pretty much destroyed the most fun part of every character, which is the initial stages where your weak character gets upgrades from drops very often. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On September 18 2013 10:26 andrewlt wrote: I liked the auction house and was hoping that they could make it work. It was an easier way to trade and get upgrades I've been unlucky to get. If they really couldn't find a way to make it work, then removing it is the next best thing. The biggest problem with it was that it provided everybody with an incentive to dump their old items back on the market once they get upgrades. And dump good drops that weren't upgrades on the market. This created an increasing baseline where every new character, whether by a new or experienced player, could buy a good starting set almost for free. That pretty much destroyed the most fun part of every character, which is the initial stages where your weak character gets upgrades from drops very often. The AH was "good". It was just too good. | ||
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FakeDouble
Australia676 Posts
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
I was of the camp that thought Blizzard no longer cares about the games and only care about the money. I admit now that it seems I was wrong. I personally think the removal of AH is a extreme step though, they could have just kept it for normal games, and disable it for Ladder Characters. Give people a choice. The disabling for ladder character is good because the game will be reset anyway, there wont be any class lawsuits from people claiming that Blizzard stole their money by resetting the game. Yes i am deadly serious about those lawsuits, it's America ffs. There was a woman who sued Mac and won because she dropped hot tea/coffee on herself, and she wasn't warned it was hot. I am of high hopes for this expansion, like how D2 was fixed by D2X. I will see you guys in ladder  Oh the Diablo3 forums can create it's own Trading thread hahaha. I rather trade with TLers! | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 18 2013 10:37 Mithhaike wrote: I am totally surprised at this move by Blizzard. Considering how much trouble they went thru to enable RMAH in many countries, the decision to backpeddle away from AH is incredible. I was of the camp that thought Blizzard no longer cares about the games and only care about the money. I admit now that it seems I was wrong. I personally think the removal of AH is a extreme step though, they could have just kept it for normal games, and disable it for Ladder Characters. Give people a choice. The disabling for ladder character is good because the game will be reset anyway, there wont be any class lawsuits from people claiming that Blizzard stole their money by resetting the game. Yes i am deadly serious about those lawsuits, it's America ffs. There was a woman who sued Mac and won because she dropped hot tea/coffee on herself, and she wasn't warned it was hot. I am of high hopes for this expansion, like how D2 was fixed by D2X. I will see you guys in ladder Oh the Diablo3 forums can create it's own Trading thread hahaha. I rather trade with TLers! commonly misunderstood and misquoted reference to mcdonalds' scalding coffee. ffs, please make a minimal effort to research before making statements. this is graphic. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://jimcofer.com/personal/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/stella_liebeck_burned_by_mcdonalds_coffee.jpg) | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
Did she drop it on herself instead of people dropping it on her? Did she need a sign to know that shit was hot? It doesnt matter how injured she is. She injured herself without her excercising due caution. However the judge disagreed with common sense, so leave it be. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On September 18 2013 10:56 Mithhaike wrote: Does it change my statement in any way or form? Did she drop it on herself instead of people dropping it on her? Did she need a sign to know that shit was hot? It doesnt matter how injured she is. She injured herself without her excercising due caution. However the judge disagreed with common sense, so leave it be. your statement was absurd if you understand the context at all, but you don't seem to care, so whatever. if you arent going to bother to do limited research, dont bother to comment on the american legal system. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On September 18 2013 10:56 Mithhaike wrote: Does it change my statement in any way or form? Did she drop it on herself instead of people dropping it on her? Did she need a sign to know that shit was hot? It doesnt matter how injured she is. She injured herself without her excercising due caution. However the judge disagreed with common sense, so leave it be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants "Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her actual and anticipated expenses. Her past medical expenses were $10,500; her anticipated future medical expenses were approximately $2,500; and her loss of income was approximately $5,000 for a total of approximately $18,000. Instead, the company offered only $800. When McDonald's refused to raise its offer, Liebeck retained Texas attorney Reed Morgan. Morgan filed suit in New Mexico District Court accusing McDonald's of "gross negligence" for selling coffee that was "unreasonably dangerous" and "defectively manufactured". McDonald's refused Morgan's offer to settle for $90,000. Morgan offered to settle for $300,000, and a mediator suggested $225,000 just before trial, but McDonald's refused these final pre-trial attempts to settle." "Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000." "Applying the principles of comparative negligence, the jury found that McDonald's was 80% responsible for the incident and Liebeck was 20% at fault." Also, it was jury not judge. Yes she dropped it on herself but coffee was served almost unreasonably hot to accommodate for people that dont drink it right away. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
On September 18 2013 11:04 TheRabidDeer wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants "Liebeck sought to settle with McDonald's for $20,000 to cover her actual and anticipated expenses. Her past medical expenses were $10,500; her anticipated future medical expenses were approximately $2,500; and her loss of income was approximately $5,000 for a total of approximately $18,000. Instead, the company offered only $800. When McDonald's refused to raise its offer, Liebeck retained Texas attorney Reed Morgan. Morgan filed suit in New Mexico District Court accusing McDonald's of "gross negligence" for selling coffee that was "unreasonably dangerous" and "defectively manufactured". McDonald's refused Morgan's offer to settle for $90,000. Morgan offered to settle for $300,000, and a mediator suggested $225,000 just before trial, but McDonald's refused these final pre-trial attempts to settle." "Other documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee to varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000." "Applying the principles of comparative negligence, the jury found that McDonald's was 80% responsible for the incident and Liebeck was 20% at fault." Also, it was jury not judge. Yes she dropped it on herself but coffee was served almost unreasonably hot to accommodate for people that dont drink it right away. I heard that MickeyDs was deliberately making their coffee extra hot so it would take a long time to cool and people would not request as many free refills. | ||
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DDie
Brazil2369 Posts
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
Or does something like this already exist? | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On September 18 2013 11:59 dartoo wrote: This might be a good time to start cloning a website like dota 2 lounge, but for diablo. There's people bound to miss the ah. Will be a lot more convenient to trade items like that as opposed to using forums. Or does something like this already exist? Dunno what dota 2 lounge is, but d2jsp.org is a big trading community | ||
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Burrfoot
United States1176 Posts
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