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OFFICIAL Diablo 3 1.04 Patch Notes - Page 4

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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
August 21 2012 10:40 GMT
#61
On August 21 2012 14:12 KiWiKaKi wrote:
pretty bad changes to the wizard ice armor and storm armor. They did changes to ice armor which are almost worthless, and didnt touch storm armor which is completely useless


Wizard got the worst changes overall in this patch and I play all five classes, so I'm not just qqing. So many useless wizard skills/passives didn't even get touched.
DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
August 21 2012 10:59 GMT
#62
On August 21 2012 19:04 jammedk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 18:39 TheRealArtemis wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:25 mtn wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:11 Jisall wrote:
Paragon levels??? Sounds dope as fuck. Prestige has made its way from CoD

Edit: Am I the only one who saw that? 3% MF and GF and extra stats per level? 100 levels? MF gear going to shit???


Someone posted a chart of how much exp u need to reach 100lv Paragon. It was 100bilion? 10bilion? something like that.

from 1 - 60 u needed like 30mil ? Or someshit like that... so yah, noone will have lv 100 of paragon for next 5-6 months if not more.

Your MF gear is fine.


Yeah, Also saw Athenes video about it. If his math is correct, you have to grind 10 hous a day, for 2 years, to become lvl 100 paragon. Sooo. MF gear is still good, and prob alot easier/better then actually grinding to lvl 100.


I saw the Athene video this morning... sounds pretty crazy.

I am wondering whether: item buffs +skill buffs +Inferno nerf will help us slay monsters substantially faster thus gaining exp at a quicker rate?

I feel like with all the nerfs to mobs and the buffs to both build damage output, and getting better and better items he has underestimated the amount of xp per hour people will be getting once they are part way thru the paragon level climb. I am willing to bet it wont take anywhere near as long as he estimated.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
jammedk
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark315 Posts
August 21 2012 11:18 GMT
#63
On August 21 2012 19:59 DeCoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 19:04 jammedk wrote:
On August 21 2012 18:39 TheRealArtemis wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:25 mtn wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:11 Jisall wrote:
Paragon levels??? Sounds dope as fuck. Prestige has made its way from CoD

Edit: Am I the only one who saw that? 3% MF and GF and extra stats per level? 100 levels? MF gear going to shit???


Someone posted a chart of how much exp u need to reach 100lv Paragon. It was 100bilion? 10bilion? something like that.

from 1 - 60 u needed like 30mil ? Or someshit like that... so yah, noone will have lv 100 of paragon for next 5-6 months if not more.

Your MF gear is fine.


Yeah, Also saw Athenes video about it. If his math is correct, you have to grind 10 hous a day, for 2 years, to become lvl 100 paragon. Sooo. MF gear is still good, and prob alot easier/better then actually grinding to lvl 100.


I saw the Athene video this morning... sounds pretty crazy.

I am wondering whether: item buffs +skill buffs +Inferno nerf will help us slay monsters substantially faster thus gaining exp at a quicker rate?

I feel like with all the nerfs to mobs and the buffs to both build damage output, and getting better and better items he has underestimated the amount of xp per hour people will be getting once they are part way thru the paragon level climb. I am willing to bet it wont take anywhere near as long as he estimated.


I think so too... Blizzard said: "The time to reach the upper Paragon levels approximates the long-term time investment required to get a level 99 character in Diablo II."

To be fair, Blizzard have been pretty far of the mark with these types of predictions in the recent past
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
August 21 2012 11:23 GMT
#64
Experience awarded by level 61-63 monsters has been increased by approximately 60%


To me this implies that monsters in inferno reward a large amount more experience than most would expect. Combine this with the NV buff for extra experience, and its quite possible that the experience will be nearly 3x more than expected.
SeggsyLori
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany80 Posts
August 21 2012 11:31 GMT
#65
On August 21 2012 19:26 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 19:14 TheRealArtemis wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:04 jammedk wrote:
On August 21 2012 18:39 TheRealArtemis wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:25 mtn wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:11 Jisall wrote:
Paragon levels??? Sounds dope as fuck. Prestige has made its way from CoD

Edit: Am I the only one who saw that? 3% MF and GF and extra stats per level? 100 levels? MF gear going to shit???


Someone posted a chart of how much exp u need to reach 100lv Paragon. It was 100bilion? 10bilion? something like that.

from 1 - 60 u needed like 30mil ? Or someshit like that... so yah, noone will have lv 100 of paragon for next 5-6 months if not more.

Your MF gear is fine.


Yeah, Also saw Athenes video about it. If his math is correct, you have to grind 10 hous a day, for 2 years, to become lvl 100 paragon. Sooo. MF gear is still good, and prob alot easier/better then actually grinding to lvl 100.


I saw the Athene video this morning... sounds pretty crazy.

I am wondering whether: item buffs +skill buffs +Inferno nerf will help us slay monsters substantially faster thus gaining exp at a quicker rate?



Bots will still be the first ones to gain those lvl. since the people that has the most elite/mob kills are bots.


That's assuming blizzard won't ban them before they reach 100.


Look at the Top1000 in Elite-Pack Kills... they are ALL BOTS! Blizzard doesn't care...
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
August 21 2012 11:54 GMT
#66
Am i the only one excited about SSS changes?

for a 30sec CD, its possible to get 2309% OR 1777 in a Area. For elite pack farming perhaps Fulminating assault is going to be awesome? Or 2309....so many choices :D cant wait
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
August 21 2012 12:23 GMT
#67
On August 21 2012 20:31 SeggsyLori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 19:26 Novalisk wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:14 TheRealArtemis wrote:
On August 21 2012 19:04 jammedk wrote:
On August 21 2012 18:39 TheRealArtemis wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:25 mtn wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:11 Jisall wrote:
Paragon levels??? Sounds dope as fuck. Prestige has made its way from CoD

Edit: Am I the only one who saw that? 3% MF and GF and extra stats per level? 100 levels? MF gear going to shit???


Someone posted a chart of how much exp u need to reach 100lv Paragon. It was 100bilion? 10bilion? something like that.

from 1 - 60 u needed like 30mil ? Or someshit like that... so yah, noone will have lv 100 of paragon for next 5-6 months if not more.

Your MF gear is fine.


Yeah, Also saw Athenes video about it. If his math is correct, you have to grind 10 hous a day, for 2 years, to become lvl 100 paragon. Sooo. MF gear is still good, and prob alot easier/better then actually grinding to lvl 100.


I saw the Athene video this morning... sounds pretty crazy.

I am wondering whether: item buffs +skill buffs +Inferno nerf will help us slay monsters substantially faster thus gaining exp at a quicker rate?



Bots will still be the first ones to gain those lvl. since the people that has the most elite/mob kills are bots.


That's assuming blizzard won't ban them before they reach 100.


Look at the Top1000 in Elite-Pack Kills... they are ALL BOTS! Blizzard doesn't care...


Blizzard doesn't care because the players don't care. When someone like Athene starts losing the race to 100 to bots, you can bet his fanbase will be vocal.
/commercial
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
August 21 2012 12:30 GMT
#68
sounds like the game is going to get ALOT easier..

100 more lvl in stats. reduced HP/Dmg of elites across the board
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 21 2012 13:03 GMT
#69
The patch is defo going to the right direction but too bad i simply lost the interest to the game (mainly due to the fact that there is no easy way for me to get higher level gear from AH). But I will install the patch instantly when people found some bug/exploit after this came out :D
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#70
who is this athene character
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
jammedk
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark315 Posts
August 21 2012 13:15 GMT
#71
On August 21 2012 22:11 oneofthem wrote:
who is this athene character


He is the greatest gamer in the world - constantly owning jelly hater scrubs in dem gamez!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 21 2012 13:16 GMT
#72
i see i see
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 21 2012 13:20 GMT
#73
If my Witch Doctor can really use pets in Inferno and stand a chance I just might get back in to the game.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-21 13:21:33
August 21 2012 13:21 GMT
#74
how long for the patch to be live? I suck at timming zones haha
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 21 2012 13:23 GMT
#75
None of the DH changes are appealing to me as a hardcore player
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
August 21 2012 13:36 GMT
#76
On August 21 2012 18:39 TheRealArtemis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 13:25 mtn wrote:
On August 21 2012 13:11 Jisall wrote:
Paragon levels??? Sounds dope as fuck. Prestige has made its way from CoD

Edit: Am I the only one who saw that? 3% MF and GF and extra stats per level? 100 levels? MF gear going to shit???


Someone posted a chart of how much exp u need to reach 100lv Paragon. It was 100bilion? 10bilion? something like that.

from 1 - 60 u needed like 30mil ? Or someshit like that... so yah, noone will have lv 100 of paragon for next 5-6 months if not more.

Your MF gear is fine.


Yeah, Also saw Athenes video about it. If his math is correct, you have to grind 10 hous a day, for 2 years, to become lvl 100 paragon. Sooo. MF gear is still good, and prob alot easier/better then actually grinding to lvl 100.

Reminds me of that south park episode about World of Warcraft somehow.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 21 2012 13:44 GMT
#77
Paragon levels is a good way to introduce that "grind" factor like D2 had with its levelling.

Now introduce paragon ladders and resets to really make everyone orgasm xD

I feel like this is the patch D3 should have been released with, the game seems like it will be so much more refined and awesome to play now.

Heres to hoping lads!
Useless wet fish.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
August 21 2012 13:58 GMT
#78
On August 21 2012 22:21 Kznn wrote:
how long for the patch to be live? I suck at timming zones haha




Got about 5 more hours, the patch downloaded though...but no point as none of the servers are online.
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4024 Posts
August 21 2012 14:22 GMT
#79
So what does that mean once the expansion with act 5 comes out? Will your paragon levels be gone and everyone starts at 60 again? On the other hand, it gives even noobs like myself the chance to gain some paragon levels and beat act3.
Elenar
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden137 Posts
August 21 2012 15:34 GMT
#80
When will it hit EU?
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